Barra build in the U.S.

[SelectivePC]

Hello all, finally got to start working on my newest project. A Barra 182, planning on fitting to a Toyota Chassis. I have heard tons about these motors from mostly YouTube videos (MCM, skid factory) so decided to go ahead and see about getting my self one. Its not the cool 242 motor, but if everything gets fitted correctly on this motor, One would be easy to swap over too. I currently am waiting for the head to come back from the machine shop. But have ordered most of the parts required to rebuild the motor, being it was shipped separated, as parts, and a little bit of damage occurred in the shipping process. Just a small nick, in the head but an easy fix, and should have it back by the end of next week. Ill figure out how to get some pictures posted here on the site, and stay updated once I get more stuff coming.

 

If this needs to be moved to a build specific thread, can a Mod please do so, Thank you.

[Rab]

Welcome aboard

 

We've had a few septics jumping on the Barra's

 

@k31th - time to add a conversion/engine implant sub forum - will let @SelectivePC kick it off with his project.

 

The Ford inline 6 has been a staple of the Aussie car engines for decades - they even stopped selling V8's for a while over here, but the I6 never died.

 

There have been a fair few times where they've had to detune (and/or under report the power of) the 6 because the top of the line performance V8 they sold at the time couldn't keep up.

 

Most of the people here are on the turbo versions of the Barra - definitely something worth looking into

[SelectivePC]

Yeah, I know I'm a little late into the game, but had to chance to get my self one over here, and decided to run with it. Waiting on parts is a bummer. But what can you do. Mace performance from AU has been a huge help with ordering parts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rab]

1 hour ago, SelectivePC said:

If this needs to be moved to a build specific thread

Pfft - stuff that.

 

Made you your own sub-forum (was overdue for something along these lines)

[SelectivePC]

Barra getting the Boundary Billet oil pump gears, switched over. And reinstalled, one thing at a time!!

 

 

 

Edited 06/09/18 07:49 PM by SelectivePC

[Mustangman570]

By any chance is the 4.6/5.4 billet oil pump gears the same as the Barra? I haven't opened my motor yet to compare.

[SelectivePC]

Negative, I actually have gear sets from both the 4.6/5.4 and a 5.0 Coyote, all of them are just a bit different. But if you call Boundries they offer them. I dont believe they are on their website though.

 

Would have been nice though as we are a vender for them and have those on the shelf.. :/

Edited 10/09/18 04:27 PM by SelectivePC

[Mustangman570]

I was hoping they were the same, that would have been perfect. Thanks for letting me know about Boundry having them in their catalog.

Edited 10/09/18 04:33 PM by Mustangman570

[SelectivePC]

Not a problem.

 

 

So more parts arrived, I'm sure most of my post will be posted as soon as they do, but its little things for now.

 

ARPhead studs, and MLS gasket.

[masda74]

Sweet. love thread like this. keep us updated and keep putting up pictures.

[SelectivePC]

Would love to update, now just waiting on my machine shop, and parts from the AU...... as you can see it takes some time.

 

 

[SelectivePC]

Ok tiny update. Finally got my head back from the machine shop today, so reassembly should start sometime next week, when I find time. Just a decking to get rid of some witness marks from shipping directly on a pallet...

 

 

 

Plans are to re-tap the service ports on the head for some NPT fittings, clean thoroughly and then start the reassembly of the head. Again sometime this week, once I find some time.

 

I also received........thank you again Puffwagon !!!!

 

He supplied me with the mid/rear sump oil pan I was worried about being able to find, and in a very timely manner as well, for being sent half way across the planet, not a shabby job at all. 

 

 

So time to put the rest of the motor back together and then start some Fab work on the chassis finally, to get it to all fit, should will be way easier now with the rear sump setup. Stay Tuned!!!

[masda74]

can I come over on holidays for a couple of weeks and be your apprentice while you put it all together?

[SelectivePC]

Absolutely, lol. That's a hell of plane ticket though.

 

Also I don't know what you'd be learning lol, I don't know anything about these motors, just learning as I go along. They were never offered here in the States, so theres not really a large following.

Edited 08/10/18 03:31 AM by SelectivePC

[4321]

Just remember, while you've never worked on one it's still just a engine & normal procedures still apply. It's a massed produced engine so there's not really any thing exotic about it. The only bit of info that's a bit vague is the cam timing but once it's in frount of you it starts to make sense (not like the old pushrod stuff where you just joined the dots) 

[SelectivePC]

Oh yeah, I have built a plethora of RB's and 2JZ's so its pretty simple for me. And not too worried about the VCT stuff either, being its simple to VVTi also. Very excited to get the head back together though, and start assembly of the motor, then fab time for the chassis. 

[SelectivePC]

Found a little time today too make some progress.

 

Tapping oil galleys for NPT plugs, and the future oil feed

 

 

Started installing new valve stem seals and upgraded crow valve springs

 

 

Little by little.

Edited 04/11/18 09:08 PM by k31th
fixed pics

[SelectivePC]

Some progress today on the head. Just need to find the proper torque sequence and specs, for the caps.

 

With any luck should go back onto the motor sometime this week, and work of bolting it down and getting timing items on and re-timing the motor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 04/11/18 09:04 PM by SelectivePC

[NA_TURBO]

I've got an owner's manual at home, pretty sure it's got the sequence and torque specs. I'll post a photo when I get home if you need it

[SelectivePC]

Sure if its not too much trouble, I'm sure its similar to the other inline 6 stuff I have done, but never come across the 2 girdle system the Barra uses.

[NA_TURBO]

I've sent you a pm

[SelectivePC]

So today was a great day. Had some customers fall through, so had a bit of time today.

 

Swapping the front sump girdle for a rear sump version.

 

 

Re-torquing the main bolts.

 

 

 

New rear main seal while im in there.

 

 

And new rear mounted pick-up.

 

 

Oil pan installed, and cross bolts with thread sealant.

 

 

 

And finally!!!! The two together.

 

ARP calls for 125ft. lbs, for the random bolts I had to order. Done and done. *Note to self, head bolts are not easily accessed with cams installed already, so small learning curve.

 

Cams reinstalled. (Again)

 

 

And started getting some timing ready to do, but enough for today.

 

 

[4321]

Not really to late now, but if you look at the head stud washers they're not wide enough, maybe wonder off to a bolt place & see if you can find better fitting ones (Atomic sell them & I think they give the size  on their website)  

[Puffwagon]

They're 28mm. Here is an ebay listing for them. If they wont post to Florida, I'll buy some and send them over if ya like. I don't see why you couldn't just use any other 28mm washer, providing it didn't lose tension on the head or deteriorate over time.

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HP-XR6-Turbo-12mm-Head-Stud-Washers-28mm-OD-BA-FG-including-Territory-FPV/113254985941?hash=item1a5e85f0d5:g:ZzUAAOSwRbtaAEj0:rk:1:pf:0

[SelectivePC]

Ok ill have to take some measurements to tomorrow, and see what I can do about this.

 

17 hours ago, 4321 said:

Not really to late now, but if you look at the head stud washers they're not wide enough, maybe wonder off to a bolt place & see if you can find better fitting ones (Atomic sell them & I think they give the size  on their website)  

OK so, my only issue with this is the ARP studs are not going to be long enough either now. After measuring out all of their requested numbers, this is the stud that would fit, and currently the nut runs down level with the top of the stud.