Bellato Legacy Donating Member 2,713 Member For: 15y 11m 17d Posted 11/10/12 09:21 AM Posted 11/10/12 09:21 AM And a GT-P isn't?What are the GT-P's worth these days? Last time I checked the GTS was like $10k more than a GT-P
Bulletime Legacy Donating Member 937 Member For: 15y 8m 28d Gender: Male Posted 11/10/12 09:35 AM Posted 11/10/12 09:35 AM Put the extra money into mods and you have something that will blow away most things from a factory anyway. 1
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Legacy Donating Member 13,798 Member For: 18y 10m 12d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 11/10/12 12:03 PM Posted 11/10/12 12:03 PM Yeah but at what point does that argument become invalid though, when you bust warranty on a new car or when you could buy a clapped out BA turbo for ten grand, stick a new atomic motor in it, beef up fuel system/driveline and run 10's for like 25 grand. I'm interested in where the power will stop, surely must be in my lifetime, the end of the personal car power wars in IC engines or electric or whatever else they have in the pipeline.Bring on the blown Expensive Daewoo to give us something to be scared of again 2
Never had any say Panda I <3 Floods Legacy Donating Member 11,198 Member For: 15y 2m 6d Gender: Male Location: South West QLD Posted 11/10/12 07:17 PM Posted 11/10/12 07:17 PM I really think the power war doesn't influence people's decisions all that much..Like Holden? Buy Holden...Like Ford? Buy Ford...Each car has its pros and cons..
Corzza 777 Member 7,135 Member For: 17y 8m 6d Gender: Male Location: Neutral Bay. Born and Bred in the RSA Posted 11/10/12 08:04 PM Posted 11/10/12 08:04 PM Ford are playing their cars just right.Remember the 5.0 coyote in the states on the Shelbys are making 400kw+.All I will say is watch this space
LAZY6 Member 620 Member For: 21y 10m 15d Gender: Male Posted 11/10/12 08:37 PM Posted 11/10/12 08:37 PM Agree with lowfly! HSV's are so ridiculously priced anyway for what you get, if they add another $10k or so to the price then people will start looking at second hand Merc's and BMW's. Well I would personallyBring a 360 Modena into the country intead
Topic97 Member 30 Member For: 14y 19d Posted 11/10/12 10:08 PM Posted 11/10/12 10:08 PM I really think the power war doesn't influence people's decisions all that much..Like Holden? Buy Holden...Like Ford? Buy Ford...Each car has its pros and cons..Agreed. People will usually always buy what brand they are loyal to.As a long time Expensive Daewoo fan(don't worry, I'm getting a ba turbo very shortly!), they do have an extra ace up their sleeve if buyers want to chase power.You can get walkinshaw performance to strap on superchargers, suspension, exhaust etc and its all covered under factory warranty & warranty by walkinshaw.Not sure if ford has any similar tuning arms, but if a die hard Expensive Daewoo fan wanted a hsv but wanted a supercharged engine without voiding warranty, the option is there.But agreed with the power levels, sure cars are getting safer but it's a bit bizarre that they are allowed to up the power levels as well - I'd think one would negate the other and it's no different to back in the day IMO.
bunna Legacy Donating Member 813 Member For: 20y 1m 11d Posted 11/10/12 10:33 PM Posted 11/10/12 10:33 PM (edited) Its very different to "back in the day". The cars are a lot safer (airbags, crumple zones, dsc, etc).The forces in a crash however are always the the same (fundamentally). 100km/h is 100km/h whether you've got 5kw or 500 Edited 11/10/12 10:41 PM by bunna
bradles024 Legacy Donating Member 1,145 Member For: 16y 10m 23d Gender: Male Posted 11/10/12 10:37 PM Posted 11/10/12 10:37 PM You get walkinshaw to supercharge your hsv and you're looking at nearly 100k!
_Velocity_ Legacy Donating Member 2,768 Member For: 15y 5m 12d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 11/10/12 11:06 PM Posted 11/10/12 11:06 PM (edited) Agreed. People will usually always buy what brand they are loyal to.As a long time Expensive Daewoo fan(don't worry, I'm getting a ba turbo very shortly!), they do have an extra ace up their sleeve if buyers want to chase power.You can get walkinshaw performance to strap on superchargers, suspension, exhaust etc and its all covered under factory warranty & warranty by walkinshaw.Not sure if ford has any similar tuning arms, but if a die hard Expensive Daewoo fan wanted a hsv but wanted a supercharged engine without voiding warranty, the option is there.Not to mention they now offer payment plans as well making it a little easier for Expensive Daewoo fans that want to get into the tuned car scene and compete with Turbo Falcons. Edited 11/10/12 11:06 PM by _Velocity_
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