Cool. I'm still hoping someone comes up with an alternative to Advantage/edit just for competition's sake. It'd come with its own learning curve for tuners of course, but I've seen enough of VCM/HP tuners, to hope that it one day comes our way. Actually, given its already the main LS1/LS2/L76 tuning tool, the 'familiarity' learning curve would be greatly reduced for those that already use it on the red army's machines. VCM has realtime tuning using the stock ECU now too, and their 'user tuning forums' are unreal..... Sorry for the thread hijack - back over to you ← SCT Advantage is like LS1 Edit was for the GENIII's going back 6 years ago. I remember a group of us offloading $12k for the software back then, and although it did work, it was primative compared to the current tuning software. Slow upload from the pcm (12 minute read/2-3 minute write), and extremely unstable data transfer - especially on utes. I know of plenty of ute pcm's that were fried with ls1 edit. When the likes of Flashscan and VCM Suite became available not only did the product improve but the cost came down significantly. Surely I'm not the only one with the dealer software for private use. Having said that, I do tune the occasional car here and there, but not on a commercial level, so consider it to be a hobby more than anything else.