Aftermarket Exhausts

[Geeseman]

Seriously this is a joke!

Geeseman I see what you are saying...

The bigger dump pipe is not needed to make up to 400rwkw's so why use it.

Fair enough, but lets look at this from a different angle...

You don't need a whole APS exhaust to make Phase II power levels either, so why use that?

I agree. However the aps gear is scalable and extremely well engineered. You get what you pay for.

If someone wants to spend $600 on a dump pipe to help them to 400rwkw's they're more than welcome to do it.

If someone wants to spend $1900 on an APS exhaust which isn't needed to get 270rwkw's they're are also more than welcome to do it.

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I also agree here, but to say that fitting one means more power is innacurate from results I have seen. Until someone posts back to back results saying that with a larger dump and the aps exhaust they make more power or same power under less pressure then anything anyone like brian says is just speculation. Misleading, uninformed and biased speculation aimed at discrediting a product - pure and simple.

[G6ET8U]

Biased... you are having a laugh. Acutally I'm not quite sure but you must be having a laugh in general...

If not... then it's sad, very sad.

You do know it's 2007 don't you? Where is the APS 'edit'? I heard it was only 2 weeks away nearly 2 years ago...

Jack

[bcl]

If someone wants to spend $600 on a dump pipe to help them to 400rwkw's they're more than welcome to do it.

If someone wants to spend $1900 on an APS exhaust which isn't needed to get 270rwkw's they're are also more than welcome to do it.

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I also agree here, but to say that fitting one means more power is innacurate from results I have seen. Until someone posts back to back results saying that with a larger dump and the aps exhaust they make more power or same power under less pressure then anything anyone like brian says is just speculation. Misleading, uninformed and biased speculation aimed at discrediting a product - pure and simple.

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This is the same old nonsense from you.

How many guys over a period of 18 months posted comparative Edit results showing how much better than Unichip it was .......... however you did not believe any of them. ..... then you fitted an Edit and did not have the guts to admit it (presumulably you gave up waiting for APS-Edit).

I'm not trying to discredit an APS exhaust at all ... it has it's place .... but most of us have moved on and consider a good exhaust (especially for mid 300's power and upwards) as one that utilises a good dump pipe, not a stock one.

Brian

[G6ET8U]

If someone wants to spend $600 on a dump pipe to help them to 400rwkw's they're more than welcome to do it.

If someone wants to spend $1900 on an APS exhaust which isn't needed to get 270rwkw's they're are also more than welcome to do it.

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I also agree here, but to say that fitting one means more power is innacurate from results I have seen. Until someone posts back to back results saying that with a larger dump and the aps exhaust they make more power or same power under less pressure then anything anyone like brian says is just speculation. Misleading, uninformed and biased speculation aimed at discrediting a product - pure and simple.

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This is the same old nonsense from you.

How many guys over a period of 18 months posted comparative Edit results showing how much better than Unichip it was .......... however you did not believe any of them. ..... then you fitted an Edit and did not have the guts to admit it (presumulably you gave up waiting for APS-Edit).I'm not trying to discredit an APS exhaust at all ... it has it's place .... but most of us have moved on and consider a good exhaust (especially for mid 300's power and upwards) as one that utilises a good dump pipe, not a stock one.

Brian

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LOL

You don't drive an edited car do you Geesey?

Surely not, we were ALL wrong... that's it I'm advertsing for an APS exhaust, I'm gonna get the not sure how big they are injectors (it's a secret), the whole box and dice, even the UNICHIMP...

I ask again... you are HAVING A LAUGH aren't you?

Jack

Edited 25/02/07 11:35 AM by XR6T8_U

[SavageF6]

Run too large a dump pipe on mid power levels and you can lose a lot of mid range torque.

Brian

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I honestly didnt know that. Cheers Brian

[RAP1D]

As funny as it may sound, having a minor restriction behind the exhaust housing will hold air in and spool faster... faster than NO dump at all that is.

If anyones driven a turbo car with NO dump at all will know there's a big drop in torque but HEAPS more up top... Its safe to say dump pipe choice should be made wisely, dont just go for whatever "Joexr6t" says is best for his car.

[Buf-Phoon]

Steve

My2.2cents worth. The APS zorst is a good bit of kit granted. Whilst it may have been modified it probably ended being more efficient removing some of the ridiculous and not needed bends

I had a custom exhaust built and some may call it over kill , but at the end of the day it delivered better than 30rwkw over the APS set up . Same Dyno , no if's but's or maybe's .BETTER, but it was what I wanted and what I gladly paid for.

This system will run well over 400rwkw with more to go.

Sold my supposedly sh*t APS Zorst to a fellow member and as far as I know he is that happy with it he is chasing another Your sprouting this non original spec stuff is just crap. Face it it is a very good exhaust, don't sook because a shop custom built ( Dump, cat , pipes etc ) a system better than APS FFS

I ran the APS farker for quite a few Ks in a few cars. I think I am in a good position to compare.As are others that have heard/driven the car

APS gear is OK , it just aint the very best anymore

[ENVY-T]

I ran the APS farker for quite a few Ks in a few cars. I think I am in a good position to compare.As are others that have heard/driven the car 

APS gear is OK , it just aint the very best anymore

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Well said Jules. I would love an APS zorst, but I can't justify the expense, when I can get an X-Force one for less than 1/2 the price.

[G6ET8U]

Nah Jules...

Give it a couple of years time and it will be back, Rocky Balboa style...

It won't be any good by then, but deluded people will still get it regardless...

Night Geesey...

Jack

[Geeseman]

I'm not trying to discredit an APS exhaust at all ... it has it's place .... but most of us have moved on and consider a good exhaust (especially for mid 300's power and upwards) as one that utilises a good dump pipe, not a stock one.

Brian

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Like most all of your comments about APS gear brian they have no basis.

Fact is plenty of cars have made power at and near 400rwkw on the stock dump pipe, with one exhaust or another. A few of these cars have run 10 second passes as well. Why then is there a need to 'move on' when the existing standard hardware does the job?