smicky Go Pies!!! Legacy Donating Member 2,852 Member For: 18y 7m 3d Gender: Male Location: Vic Somewhere - Sometimes NSW Posted 07/01/09 03:04 AM Posted 07/01/09 03:04 AM Pete, in many ways your comment about costing is not wrong...Ford and even Toy and Hole, all come back to look for local product(s) when its cheaper to do so and not off shore... Its only normal/good business practice!If it be Lights, or Seat covers, or even steering arms - whatever... its always been the same with the aussie car makers, hence you hear of the local suppliers going out of business when the dollar is up! then new ones pop up again when the dollar is down!BTR/Borg Warner/Ion - now DSI is a prime example of this... Interesting to see that it was reopened again about 6 months ago - (I think???)Its always happened, and will always happen...In the case of the ZF - I guess we will all need to play it by ear!
F6_Tornado F6+300+ Member 940 Member For: 21y 10m 12d Location: In The Ute Posted 07/01/09 03:30 AM Posted 07/01/09 03:30 AM Why are ZF "disappointed with Ford Aust."? Were they hoping Ford would drop the 4 speed and only use the A6?From what I am led to believe is that ZF offered Ford Aus the 8 speed for the same price as the 6 speed and Ford went for their own ZF copy from the USA. Ford have been hard on ZF in aus even to a point where they have recently stopped ZF selling the 6HP26 box to people like me who have accounts with ZF. Fords nut squeezing revolves around the fact that this box was made for Ford to suit the local Ford bell housing and as such the box’s should only be sold through ford outlets.Ford can’t stop us from buying parts as the parts fit many box’s but whole units is a different matter. Even information is limited due to Ford placing restrictions on who is allowed to see it. (try and buy a manual or even a parts book) When the contract expires I bet ZF let the whole lot out just to stick it up Fords nose.Personally I think its been the best transmission in any Aus car but obviously Ford think they can make a copy and cheaper????
bunna Legacy Donating Member 813 Member For: 20y 25d Posted 07/01/09 03:31 AM Posted 07/01/09 03:31 AM there won't be a new box until the next falcon anyway, so don't start sobbing yet (even though as I said its still going to be a ZF)
maximum_velocity Lemming No #5 Member 1,991 Member For: 21y 9m 27d Gender: Male Location: Endeavour Hills, Victoria Posted 07/01/09 06:39 AM Posted 07/01/09 06:39 AM Ford arent the brighest bunch of people but after all the praise and good word the ZF has brought them I can hardly see them sh*tting in their own nest.I would never believe what a ford dealer or mechanic says, they like to think they are "in the know"
senna_T Forged Member Legacy Donating Member 15,818 Member For: 19y 7m 12d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 07/01/09 06:50 AM Posted 07/01/09 06:50 AM I would never believe what a ford dealer or mechanic says, they like to think they are "in the know"Well you're off the chrissy card list then V8_FRD
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 22y 4m 26d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 07/01/09 06:52 AM Posted 07/01/09 06:52 AM Seriously though Pattsy, you'd have to admit hearing about allot of things from other sources before it filters through the dealer communications wouldn't ya?PS: There is actually a Xmas card list???
senna_T Forged Member Legacy Donating Member 15,818 Member For: 19y 7m 12d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 07/01/09 06:57 AM Posted 07/01/09 06:57 AM Definately mate, we hear things from outside ford because ford want us to sell what we have now, not what we will have in the future. That doesn't mean that we are pulling ourselves though (not always anyway) We may have heard it through another reliable source. I have a good customer of mine that works for Dana (diff supplier) and he was the one that told me about the way the FG diffs were made compared to the BA and BF ones (stronger splines apparently)You don't know about the christmas card list because you aren't on it tard
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Legacy Donating Member 15,637 Member For: 19y 3m 25d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 07/01/09 06:58 AM Posted 07/01/09 06:58 AM Holysh*t Pat your going to hit 20k before Dags..
2MUCHKW Member 350 Member For: 20y 5m Posted 07/01/09 07:29 AM Posted 07/01/09 07:29 AM From what I am led to believe is that ZF offered Ford Aus the 8 speed for the same price as the 6 speed and Ford went for their own ZF copy from the USA. :bye: Ford have been hard on ZF in aus even to a point where they have recently stopped ZF selling the 6HP26 box to people like me who have accounts with ZF. Fords nut squeezing revolves around the fact that this box was made for Ford to suit the local Ford bell housing and as such the box’s should only be sold through ford outlets.Ford can’t stop us from buying parts as the parts fit many box’s but whole units is a different matter. Even information is limited due to Ford placing restrictions on who is allowed to see it. (try and buy a manual or even a parts book) When the contract expires I bet ZF let the whole lot out just to stick it up Fords nose.Personally I think its been the best transmission in any Aus car but obviously Ford think they can make a copy and cheaper????The ZF 6HP26 trans is great but has been around since 2000 and is now quite outdated.Why Ford Australia dont update to the newer generation ZF 6HP28 trans is beyond me? :wacko: Look at the specs for the 2009 Ford F150 in the USA ... you'll see "EVEN" its equipped with a ZF 6HP28 which helped it win pickup of the year.
PHANTMXR6 It's not a MKI! Member 1,742 Member For: 18y 3m Gender: Male Location: Earth Posted 07/01/09 09:39 AM Posted 07/01/09 09:39 AM Whoever believes the ZF is standard in the XR range best check again.They have never been standard, always a cost extra option.
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