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Sounds like a good outcome here for all. Todays generic tunes are pretty refined things indeed, so custom tuning is definitely not a must, but cant hurt either. Maybe Jordak has found the best balance here.

Current generation generic tunes have no traction control issue, so take your box back for an update. The other problem sounds valve spring related. Hope that helps.

You will get a much better result if you use the factory management. Throttle control, cam control, injector control etc. all superior with the Ford hardware

Just be aware that too much boost too soon bends XR6T conrods....or at best drastically reduces engine life through component fatigue. So rather than insist on the way you want the engine tuned, pick a responsible tuner with all the right test gear and discuss the ramifications of your request. Its all good till something goes wrong, so make sure there is some safety margin in the program.

igsta gets the prize for today!

It comes back to the education of the operators, and how they then pass this information on to the end users. All you need to do is read some threads here to glean that some folks think their 300rwkw @ 5500rpm T is making over 1000Nm at the crank when as we both know nothing could be further from the truth.

Try a tuner that bothers to set your car up on the dyno properly by entering either the kmh/rpm relationship in the gear the car is dynoed in, or (even better) uses the Dyno Dynamics inductive rpm pickup. Proper graphing of Nm with a Dyno Dynamics is quite easy, and wont give the bogus 1000Nm+ at the wheels figures that other dynos do

The fix for the throttle light is a simple one. One of the idle airflow tables from the A3YA (early) XR6T calibration has some odd numbers in it that can cause the engine to flare at startup, which in turn can cause the PCM to throw the throttle light as it sees too many engine revs with the pedal not having moved. Its a 5 minute fix, and yes this does happen in stock cars with the A3YA calibration as well.... All of the dealers that attended the training course four months ago know about this, and how to fix it. Its definitely not an issue that should be causing any of you problems now. I really am concerned about your unhappiness with this Goldbullet, but I believe your problems are calibration rather than hardware related. that's the point I have been trying to make clear here. You know if you need any help I will sort it for you, as I have in the past.

Just going on what I was told Goldbullet, could you please answer my initial question though so a sequence of events can be worked through...

Been pretty quiet here so far.....I rang HPF about this 'supposed problem' today, and its the first they have heard of it.....

Done!

I dont believe Daniel from Chipmaster has the latest generic tunes, but I will email them to him over the course of the weekend so he can upload them into your box

Your car would be processor code 12JB being a T3, which when I just checked maxes out at an incredible 32deg BTDC at Wide Open Throttle, which is simply way too much timing...that's why it pings. I do believe both Herrod and John Houlder at Intune Motorsport (Castle Hill NSW) have had good results programming these engines. Contact either for a price on an already developed tune.

Ok Goldbullet, lets get to the bottom of this, tell me EXACTLY the chain of events, and the symptoms your car suffered.

Who knows whats in the box, but I can tell you its like nothing I have ever seen.....which is why you should get the CURRENT updates to make sure its actually a CAPA generic tune you have in the box.

Make sure Santa didnt take that timing, his sleigh might ping...or Blitzen might bend a rod?

Tell em you were carrying home some Santa lights in the back seat.....and the car stopped. No wonder they ban Christmas at schools these days!

Send you box to CAPA asking for the current version, I think you will be pleasantly surprised

The reality is that if anything in your PCM changes, any number, even one, for any alien or unexplained reason.....the car wont even crank over let alone start. Its called a checksum check that the car does evertime the ignition key is turned to on. Remember throttle faults were there long before there was tuning for an XR6T on the market, and they will continue to exist. If your car loses power for any reason, regardless of whether its Edit or Piggypop, check with your tuner. There are no fairies at the bottom of the garden, there is a logical explanation for everything, and most if not all of it is finger trouble.

Any CAPA dealer now has this facility

The current generation of Generic tunes are MUCH better than that. Looks like its bouncing off the overboost limiter. Food for thought.

Unless they all went home on tow trucks it didnt happen. Unfortunately many options are considered when cars run slower than expected at the track, but this is one of the most extreme I have heard of so far. Maybe contact your tuner in regards to slow times at the track?

The light on the dash is a 'Throttle Light' which comes on if at any time the PCM considers the throttle actuator (pedal or throttle body) to be faulty. If this happens then engine power is reduced, and 'limp mode' is activated as the PCM can no longer trust what the throttle may do. This is part of any factory or modified PCM program. Many factory cars have done this as well as many modified ones. There is no parallel set of memory in the PCM, only one program is stored there in its 1472K memory, and it also contains the PCM communication protocol. If the program was lost somehow (hardware corruption) then the only way the car would ever start again is if the entire PCM was overwritten with the factory WDS programming tool.

Shoot me a PM with your name etc, and the FIST email address, and I will get it off to them pronto.

There is one known company in the world that can live tune the Ford 'Oak' series PCMs....and that's Ford (using a special development PCM too I might add!)