I could not agree more. As you said they have upgraded the standard brakes on the BF now. I can't say I drive the car hard enough to ever feel the need for more brakes, however I am starting to get a bit of brake shudder on the car now at nearly 30,000kms. And worst of all in my opinion, the standard brakes on the BA's look crap. Too small, unpainted hubs giving it that rusty look and as for those bloody black dust plates, don't get me started! I have been looking into updating at least the front of mine with territory brakes. Ford want over $400 for each front caliper! Oh well, looks like the crap brakes will have to stay.