phantomchic Just because it is, doesn't mean it should be..... Legacy Donating Member 14,092 Member For: 22y 12d Gender: Female Location: Noosa QLD Posted 11/12/06 09:52 AM Posted 11/12/06 09:52 AM You have to ask, why was Lowndes on the brakes miles before the corner??You can see he's on the picks and moving right. Is he making the move on the HRT car, or as knobhead suggests, squeezing Kelly out??Kelly has no room whatsoever, and has to come back to the left or go off the track himself. It just has to be clarified he either put himself in that position or Lowndes pushed him over. Either way, it's not a 3 wide corner, so Kelly should have hung back. He may have seen that if Lowndes took Todd he would have been caught in traffic, so pushed hard??What was the consensus from the commentators??←I have obsessively watched the footage on youtube, Lowndes brake lights were on for about 5.5 secs with kelly having plenty of room to avoid collision. Kelly regardless of what was obivously not a safe and clear place to make a move, puts his foot down. the only place crash bandicoot appeared to want to go was craigs rear.I also ask why didn't the "investigators: (uses term loosely) not take into account the blatant and undeniable go ahead for RK to do as he wished to the car since it was not needed next year.shaz
Johnny G Team Grandpa Qualified Legacy Donating Member 809 Member For: 21y 7m 11d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane North. Posted 11/12/06 09:54 AM Posted 11/12/06 09:54 AM Quote: And also speered Jason Bright into the wall at 200+ km/h in Adelaide a few years ago, what a dipsh*t ←And don't I remember Elvis Kelly doing some major corner cutting in Tasmania recently? Mmmmm.... lots of things adding up here.Wonder if Holdum will be game enough to promote this Claytons "win" in there advertising..... the way the VE is going they will almost have to - and that may well be a tough pill for even many of their hardiest supporters to swallow.... as many of them also agree that his tactics were dirty and disgusting.
Johnny G Team Grandpa Qualified Legacy Donating Member 809 Member For: 21y 7m 11d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane North. Posted 11/12/06 10:16 AM Posted 11/12/06 10:16 AM And here's another thought. Who coached Elvis Kelly Esq into these tactics?Go back and have a look at the tape - who's head keeps bobbing up in their pits - offering all sorts of unwanted advice???One Mr "I'm An Old Pommy Gitt" Tom Walkinshaw. Onya Tom - TRUE TO FORM. Now - YOU SHOULD GET YOUR KNEE RUG, HOP ON A PLANE AND GO HOME.Yes, always had a soft spot for Tom......
Adam Here since the start... Legacy Donating Member 10,282 Member For: 23y 4m 30d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 11/12/06 10:22 AM Posted 11/12/06 10:22 AM I was at Phillip Island and sat across from the whole incident...The crowd where I was in general was not happy with what Rick did, no matter what camp you supported. In my opinion it ruined what was going to be one of the best championship finishes of all time.I was disappointed when Tander said he would play no part in helping Rick only to block Lowndes until he got a black flag, Skaife was even worse. Why these guys couldn't just let the two contenders battle it out I'll never know.At the presentation there was a very large and vocal disapproval of Kelly and all he had done. You may of heard it all on TV?I didn't expect the officals to change anything, why should they really? If this was any other race of the year we wouldn't even be discussing it now. Lowndes also made some silly mistakes throughout the year and any of those could be pointed out as "the moment" he lost the title.I really wanted Lowndes to win as I feel Kelly didn't do enough through the year to deserve it and it is only because of the stupid points system that he had the chance to win.In my mind the 2006 championship will always be remembered as the year when nobody won. Instead, the trophy was stolen with bullying tactics and unsportman like behavior from someone that knew they didn't have the pace to RACE and win.
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Legacy Donating Member 7,935 Member For: 22y 7m 11d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 11/12/06 10:25 AM Posted 11/12/06 10:25 AM Adam, Where were you with a Brick ?You could have hoiked it through little pRickies windscreen. Do not get mad....GET EVEN
Kimberley Scott www.australianflag.org.au Legacy Donating Member 6,763 Member For: 21y 2m 8d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 11/12/06 10:29 AM Posted 11/12/06 10:29 AM Adam, Where were you with a Brick ?You could have hoiked it through little pRickies windscreen. Do not get mad....GET EVEN ←Would only make him famous and popular, look what it diod for Dick Johnson.ScottyPS was it Kelly's a wa*ker chant in the background. I could not quite make it out.
Adam Here since the start... Legacy Donating Member 10,282 Member For: 23y 4m 30d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 11/12/06 10:30 AM Posted 11/12/06 10:30 AM It's funny you mention that. My girlfriend is a DJR fan and she said we needed "a rock" incident! On a side note...After the presentation was over Lowndes came out and signed autographs for the fans that stayed behind, and as always did it with a smile on his face. I'm sure he was gutted on the inside but I have to admire someone that can do that and give the fans something back that were supporting him.I didn't see Kelly signing any autographs. Although he may of had a press conference to attend.
saleen Big Gun Legacy Donating Member 4,170 Member For: 23y 11m 14d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 11/12/06 10:31 AM Posted 11/12/06 10:31 AM I didn't expect the officals to change anything, why should they really? If this was any other race of the year we wouldn't even be discussing it now. Lowndes also made some silly mistakes throughout the year and any of those could be pointed out as "the moment" he lost the title.I really wanted Lowndes to win as I feel Kelly didn't do enough through the year to deserve it and it is only because of the stupid points system that he had the chance to win.In my mind the 2006 championship will always be remembered as the year when nobody won. Instead, the trophy was stolen with bullying tactics and unsportman like behavior from someone that knew they didn't have the pace to RACE and win.←
Skooby Legacy Donating Member 398 Member For: 20y 4m 6d Location: Phillip Island Posted 11/12/06 11:33 AM Posted 11/12/06 11:33 AM http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RICK-KELLY-VZ-HOLDE...1QQcmdZViewItemMake sure you read the sellers instructions at the bottom of the page.
Mercury Silver Member 64 Member For: 22y 7m 14d Location: Katanning WA Posted 11/12/06 12:08 PM Posted 11/12/06 12:08 PM I was at Phillip Island and sat across from the whole incident...The crowd where I was in general was not happy with what Rick did, no matter what camp you supported. In my opinion it ruined what was going to be one of the best championship finishes of all time.I was disappointed when Tander said he would play no part in helping Rick only to block Lowndes until he got a black flag, Skaife was even worse. Why these guys couldn't just let the two contenders battle it out I'll never know.At the presentation there was a very large and vocal disapproval of Kelly and all he had done. You may of heard it all on TV?I didn't expect the officals to change anything, why should they really? If this was any other race of the year we wouldn't even be discussing it now. Lowndes also made some silly mistakes throughout the year and any of those could be pointed out as "the moment" he lost the title.I really wanted Lowndes to win as I feel Kelly didn't do enough through the year to deserve it and it is only because of the stupid points system that he had the chance to win.In my mind the 2006 championship will always be remembered as the year when nobody won. Instead, the trophy was stolen with bullying tactics and unsportman like behavior from someone that knew they didn't have the pace to RACE and win.←I couldn't agree more with your comment. I'm not a Lowndes fan but feel he was robbed to a degree. A blind man could have seen what was going to happen in the final race, race 2 was the 1st phase.As it is in country areas we only get V8 supercars when footy or cricket isn't on. I'm not with Bigpond like at least 50% of the rest of Australia and they don't show it on Fox. All I can say is thank God Ambrose starts in the Busch series next year, and I'll get to see every single race. I won't be tuning back into V8 supercars, I'm sick of the Expensive Daewoo v Ford crap anyway. Add some other makes back into it and make it interesting again.......Like I can see that happening.
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