Caltex...I think you're right.... the one on the right hand side of the roundabout as you're heading out of town going up the hill up Federal Highway (near the speed cameras). Plan as I see it: 0930 Meet at the Caltex servo. :hiwelcome: 0945 Head up Federal Hwy, right into Mac's Reef Rd for Bungendore for coffee & chat. 1045 Depart Bungendore for Cotter via Queanbeyan. Route past Queanbeyan includes Monaro Highway, right into Johnson Drive which becomes Woodcock, right into Jim Pike Ave, right into Point Hut Rd, Tidbinbilla Rd, Paddy's River Rd, Cotter Dam. :auto: Things to bring - CB radio or hand held, what ever you want to burn on a BBQ and wash it down, plenty of stories, maybe a spud (football), blow-up doll if you need a navigator . See ya in the morning