dillz, I don't agree with the "bragging " comment, I reckon it's good to get an idea of what to expect to pay ! if there's more than 2/3 people getting them for sub 45k new, then the potential buyer has the knowledge to go and get their own great or good deal ! If the buyer is happy to pay 8k over average, then fine no problem but I still think its good to know the "going rate"... 40k after a year paying 43/44k = $3-4k loss same car after a year paying 53k = 10-13k loss ! big difference and if the info was available, I'd rather have it !