Don't let Johns response put you off. As I said..no fluff.. no BS. He does a decent port job too. THing is we have so much choice now.. It can get a bit confusing. But I don't think anyone can lay claim to being "so much more better" in the modifying department. Its all been done. And as weve seen with recently, even the the big fellas can stuff up. Personally ..loved the billet.. wish I had spent abit more time with it, but was offered so I on sold it and moved to a 6235.. No regret.. if you can stretch your budget.. go the 6235.. You will not regret it I can assure you