norrs Donating Members 448 Member For: 17y 9m 16d Gender: Male Location: Darwin Posted 13/01/15 07:09 AM Share Posted 13/01/15 07:09 AM Ok so ford had it today. I didn't get my usual friendly reception. They decided that the centre bush was the problem and causing the whine even though I told them about the metal on metal on outrigger arms. They tried to push the centre bush in deeper and claim it is shorter then the ford bush and that it will cause problems. They say that the side bushes (the problem ones) were pushed into spec distance and that the original bushes are longer and go in further. I disagreed and spoke to the manager of the workshop. He was a bit better. He said he would look at it personally tomorrow. They are blaming the superpro bushes saying they are different and don't fit properly. As far as I'm aware they are the same. But happy to be corrected. I've asked them to push them in 5mm further as that will centralise the the bush and should give the clearance I need Fingers crossed! 2 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/86150-nolathane-diff-bush-noise-resonating-through-rear-end/page/6/#findComment-1523520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrs Donating Members 448 Member For: 17y 9m 16d Gender: Male Location: Darwin Posted 14/01/15 01:51 PM Share Posted 14/01/15 01:51 PM Ok they pushed the bushes in 5mm from the front and now it seems perfect. I called superpro and they confirmed they have to be 5mm from front as is explained on their instructions (that they say are in the packet). Instructions ford didn't read obviously when taking them out if the packet. Ford charged me nothing to rectify but did charge me $310 to change the diff oil apparently it was $260 labour to do that! Oh well, the car works so I'm happy. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD 4 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/86150-nolathane-diff-bush-noise-resonating-through-rear-end/page/6/#findComment-1523846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,332 Member For: 19y 7m 16d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 14/01/15 01:55 PM Share Posted 14/01/15 01:55 PM EDIT- got to have a bit of a bleat about how shit like this pisses me off.This shit happens all the time (poor instal of quality parts) and (not aiming this at you Norrs) the customer isn't happy so tell his mates and every man, woman and their bulldog that the parts are shit,noisy,don't work etc etc all because some numpty doesn't read the direction or use some basic nouse to determine that metal bits shouldn't be whacking against other metal bits. 3 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/86150-nolathane-diff-bush-noise-resonating-through-rear-end/page/6/#findComment-1523850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 5m 14d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 14/01/15 03:02 PM Share Posted 14/01/15 03:02 PM It's that sort of info on these forums and others that has shaken my faith in mechanics, the amount of stories that get around about people having a bad time in all aspects, fixed by changing tuners or mechanics etc...you can't even go by how busy a shop is either, but the good places are almost always busy. Maybe the bad ones are just cheap so draw a lot of customers. ...and then you have the official workshops which you would hope know the most about the car, but it's not like the staff have been there for 20 years and seen the evolution of the platform, thus knowing the ins and outs. They are just hired and fired like usual offices. Sigh.When you find a good thing, it's worth its weight in gold! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/86150-nolathane-diff-bush-noise-resonating-through-rear-end/page/6/#findComment-1523870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrs Donating Members 448 Member For: 17y 9m 16d Gender: Male Location: Darwin Posted 14/01/15 10:24 PM Share Posted 14/01/15 10:24 PM Well for the record the go with the side bushes from superpro is that they don't have a flange like the genuine ones. So you don't just knock them in till they stop. You got to knock them in till they are recessed 5mm from the front. I my case Darwin ford said they had to make a tool to knock them in further because they had never done it before Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/86150-nolathane-diff-bush-noise-resonating-through-rear-end/page/6/#findComment-1523926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Captain Retard" Member 1,417 Member For: 11y 7d Gender: Male Location: Shellharbour NSW Posted 14/01/15 11:25 PM Share Posted 14/01/15 11:25 PM This is the reason I do all my own work and have done since I bought my first car 33 years ago. My first car( a Capri) had violent death wobbles when ever I'd touch the brake. After taking it too about 5 different mechanics basically being told the whole front end needed a re- build, I thought I'd have a look my self (and at this stage I knew absolutely nothing about cars) anyway I borrowed Dads jack and tools and climbed under the car.After about 5 mins I found a a lose bolt, so I tightened it up . Turns out that bolt only held the lower control arm too the chassis.Problem fixed, lesson learned, and my huge mis-trust of so-called experts began at the tender age of 17.Now I know there are good mechs out there but from my experience from the last 30 years is they are few and far between .SCARRED FOR LIFE!!! 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/86150-nolathane-diff-bush-noise-resonating-through-rear-end/page/6/#findComment-1523940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotrana Member 2,586 Member For: 22y 1m 8d Gender: Male Posted 15/01/15 01:54 AM Share Posted 15/01/15 01:54 AM I think I was about 13 or 14 when my dad had his brakes worked on and we drove back to the mechanics cause the pedal went pretty close to the floor. The mechanic did not bleed it properly.From that day onwards I have never trusted mechanics or tradesmen until they earnt trust. Bad tradesmen are a major reason why alot of cars need to be scrapped prematurely. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/86150-nolathane-diff-bush-noise-resonating-through-rear-end/page/6/#findComment-1523982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrs Donating Members 448 Member For: 17y 9m 16d Gender: Male Location: Darwin Posted 15/01/15 03:24 AM Share Posted 15/01/15 03:24 AM I think being a mechanic is a tough job. They would have some difficult customers with high expectations. I'm usually the last to complain and often don't at all. I do expect the ford dealership to know how to fix fords though. Perhaps people just need to see experts rather than mechanics who "do it all". So see a suspension shop, for suspension and trans and diff shop for driveline issues etc... It's like getting your country town lawyer to run your family law case. He may know a bit about family law but he ain't going to be an expert. One should always get someone who specialises in what you want. Like a GP v specialist If you go to a guy who knows a bit about everything then you risk him only knowing a bit about what you need. The glass may be half full but it is also half empty. 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/86150-nolathane-diff-bush-noise-resonating-through-rear-end/page/6/#findComment-1524002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz097 Bronze Donating Members 1,752 Member For: 13y 9m 18d Posted 15/01/15 03:32 AM Share Posted 15/01/15 03:32 AM Well for the record the go with the side bushes from superpro is that they don't have a flange like the genuine ones. So you don't just knock them in till they stop. You got to knock them in till they are recessed 5mm from the front. I my case Darwin ford said they had to make a tool to knock them in further because they had never done it beforeCorrect. I made(found) a tool to pull them in the extra 5mm. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/86150-nolathane-diff-bush-noise-resonating-through-rear-end/page/6/#findComment-1524003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Captain Retard" Member 1,417 Member For: 11y 7d Gender: Male Location: Shellharbour NSW Posted 15/01/15 03:55 AM Share Posted 15/01/15 03:55 AM Being a Mechanic is a tough job.When you deal face to face with your customers, some are going to be assholes.I don't complain either, I simply walk and don't go back......ever!Find a Mech who loves his job and has a half decent work ethic and your almost there.Unfortunately the pages on this forum are littered with stories about Mechs who made the wrong career choice.All trades ,professions etc are the same, it's harder to find someone who does a good ( a good not great, just good) job than it is to find a half arsed idiot masquerading as a pro.It ain't only cars that I do myself but pretty much everything else like woodwork , paving, building pergolas and decking too even building my own concrete swimming pool etc etc.Like I said SCARRED FOR LIFE!!! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/86150-nolathane-diff-bush-noise-resonating-through-rear-end/page/6/#findComment-1524007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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