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Hey guys, currently looking at getting a new car (it will be secondhand).

I used to be a Expensive Daewoo kind of guy, cos I think all fords before the BA's looked rubbish (sorry!), but from then on I have liked them just as much as the holdens. I'm not really a holden/ford argument person, I like them both.

Anyway, I want more power than my current car, a J31 maxima. Looks awesome (imo) goes decently (180kw, good enough for when I was on my p's) and is (was) very comfortable and well made, before I lowered it and gave it 20's... haha

Cant decide between the VE SS and the FG XR6T. Both almost identical power wise. Both decent looking machines.


Putting your ford loyalty and all that aside, why would/have -you- buy/bought an XR6T over an SS?

thanks for the help fellas!

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The FG cause you can't put a Chev Badge on it!

One word VE's are gutless !!! My mate took me in his 6LT calais ve trying to impress me then I took him in the booster fgt he went all silent no comments at all lolllll

Guys, I intially went in to buy myself a VF SV6......dealer wanted $39 on road - and when he refused to haggle, his response was 'mate I have a 3 month wait - take it or leave it'......I didnt even en

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I was tossing between the two myself.

Main reasons I choose the XR6T are

- Better fuel economy (slightly haha)

- Faster

- Easier to extract power relatively cheaply.

- Also liked the look of the new FG (and a few of my mates already have VE's)

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Owned an FG XR6T and now drive a VE SS every second week..

So.. In a nutshell..

-Fuel economy difference is negligible.. Especially if you get an auto in the VE SS..

-Personally I think the SS interior is cheap feeling. The Bogan special is a different thing again but still compared to the FG seems tacky and not very well thought out.

-FG turbo is a whole lot easier to get power from!!

-I've never driven an XR6T sedan.. But I do feel the SS utes hold the road better then the FG utes..

-XR6 seats are loads better then the cloth seats in the SS.. But in leather they are both alright (my old mans Bogan special seats are like lounge chairs)..

-While the SS is still a reasonably fast car the acceleration in one will never give you the seat of pants thrill that the turbo car will!!

You need to drive both cars mate.. But if you want my opinion I'd be all over the FG XR6T unless you need a wagon..

Good luck with the shopping mate..

Edit: also cruise control on the steering wheel!!! FTMFW!!!!! If that's any consideration the cruise control on the SS is stupid!!!!

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fg xr6t for a few simple reasons.

1 the fgs are easier to drive on a whole cause u dont have the flared guards like the ve, a few of my mates have already clipped there quater panels.

2 brings me to my next point, the ve is more prone to damage, mate of mine had a crash at 4ks and ended up needing new headlight, front bar, quater panel, grill and something else, another mate had a similar crash but a little faster in his fg and needed new front bar and headlight.

3 the xr6t from the factory ive found consistantly will pull 1 full car length from the ve.

4 ive just spent $400 on a tune (mates rates) and im now pushing 300rwkw, not many cars cant match that for bang for your buck upgrades.

I wouldnt worry about comparing fuel economy, if your gonna be booting it the fuel economy will be no different and even around town its not great in the fg without a tune.

it also depends on what u want your car for, if u wanna go to the drags on the cheap, ud obviously go the ford.

if you wanted to slide around corners to be honest the ve is probably better purly due to the fact that its got that n/a throttle response, not to say the fg cant slide though it just takes more practice.

and if u just wanna cruise around in a nice looking sedan with a bit of power and your not really looking to modify the power output then u cant really go wrong with either, both are great cars and great looking cars :)

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agree with nearly everything above also cheaper rego and generally insurance too for the xr6t.

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Upside of the VE, can swallow 22s with ease, that's all I got. Oh sound good.

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I was prone to the Bogan special ute but the only things that had me in it was the sound of a v8 grumble and the Bogan special seats are much more comfortable and I think its a better interior....you dont feel like your in a cab when you in it haha unlike the fg.

But then I couldnt remove the tub and replace with a tray so ford was the only option...wanted the xr8...they stopped making it so thought better go the next best thing and got the xr6t......looking back now I should have gone the t from the start...I didnt know much about either cars or performance stats or anything just based on my own perception...then read reviews...and took it for a drive.......so much more fun when the turbo kicks in and once tuned the sound of the turbo is unreal. people always look at it thinking wtf was that haha

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..so much more fun when the turbo kicks in and once tuned the sound of the turbo is unreal.

This!!!!

In utes I gotta admit I definitely prefer the handling of the Bogan special ..

But when ya put your foot down the SS will get from point A to 400m down the road fairly quick.. But the FG XR6Tbwill get you 400m down the road quicker and with a much bigger smile on your face!!

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Edit: also cruise control on the steering wheel!!! FTMFW!!!!! If that's any consideration the cruise control on the SS is stupid!!!!

So damn true! Expensive Daewoo cruise control is pathetic.

Drive and work on both at work,

INTERIOR: FG is nicer apart from the arm rest on doors, the SS feels cheap inside.

SEATS: FG is nicer. Haven't seen the leather ones though.

LOOKS: mmmm I hate to say it but the SS does look slightly better than the FG IMO

POWER: FG feels faster but SS has slightly more go off the line.

EASE TO WORK ON: probably the I6t only because I own one and am used to it.

RELIABILITY: I've noticed the Expensive Daewoo motors are very anal about which oil you use. Had a couple in for rebuilds...

DRIVEABILITY: SS feels nicer on road and seems to hold traction better

On a side note. Holdens beep at you way to f*cking much. I feel like knifing out the speaker every time I hop in one

That's all in stock form though and all just what I believe, completely open for debate.

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Yes to the question above...but not as many nm of torque :D

I had an 06 Bogan special and am now waiting on delivery of a mk2 xr6t. I drove a mates mk2 and would definitely recommend over the ss. Interior, looks and performance....everything is better than the ss IMO

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Stock ve ss = high 13s

Stock t= high 12s.

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Stock ve ss = mid 14s

Stock t= high 12s.

Fixored.. Watched a stock VE Bogan special redline edition thingy run mid to high 14's all night at a test and tune a few weeks ago..

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I lined a guy up with an auto with Catbacks and mafless in an auto, in my tune/ injectors/cat manual, did a 12.9@111 next to a 13.8@ I think 103? Wasn't a high mph

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I read on a Expensive Daewoo forum a little while ago, a post by a car tester, and he rated the FG XR6T a better car than the VE 6.2 L GTS. He copped a bit of flack over it. All they could say was that the turbo's wear out after 100,000k's.

Cheers

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The only real downside to buying an FG XR6T would be replacing your diff bush every 5km or so..

Other then that they really aren't too expensive to service..

And Henz 103 mph seems about right for a stock VE.. Tune,zorst and OTR will push em up to 108-110.. However they'd still be lucky to get into 12's at that mph.. Low 13's max.

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what sort of grunt do they make after modding with a mafless tune'n' zorst?

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Not much

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One of my mates has an auto VE SS (prior to AFM model).. Mods are:

OTR

Full 3" exhaust with pacemaker headers

25% under drive kit

Performance oil filter (cost nearly 300 bucks and he swears it pulls stronger since its fitted - lol)

Mafless tune

Auto tune

Power figure he claims is 278rwkw but I watched it pull consistent 240-250rwkw runs on the dyno prior to the miraculous 278rwkw run..

His best 1/4 was 13.4 or 13.6 or something.. Unsure on mph.. Of course that was on crap tires.. And 20" rims so he claims its got low 12's in it with some good rubber (double lol)..

He has since fitted 4.01 or 4.11 (2.92 stock) diff gears so I may need to bite my tongue soon..

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I had the same decision to make recently so I've had a look at both. Comparison's so far are pretty spot on.

SS-V interior is nice, SS interior isn't so great. I'd rate the cloth seats and interior of the FG in-between. Didn't like the Expensive Daewoo auto in comparison to the ZF in the ford. The manual in the SS is what I would have gone for.

Expensive Daewoo were selling the SS sedan with a 5yr warranty for $41,500 before EOFY. So it's a bit cheaper than an XR6T (again between an SS and SS-V...)

Ended up going with an ex-demo XR6T mk2 with less than 5,000kms on it for a few grand less than the SS :) Can't beat that turbo rush.

It's a pity the sportswagon commands such a premium over the sedan, otherwise I'd have been very tempted to go to the dark side haha. I have a weird soft spot for fast wagons :)

In terms of an everyday stock daily driver (as in a nice place to be) SS-V or Lux Pack XR6T > Standard XR6T > SS

tl;dr go drive both cars and see for yourself!

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