Hmmmmm maybe low rent in the better models (clubby, GTS, Senator) but for what I paid, $36,000 brand new, I am really happy with what I got. Leather, climate, stacker, 19s, 6litres of v8's bro, Metalic paint (Atomic). I really don't think I could have gotten a better new car for the money I paid. I loooooooooooved my Ford and the lack of pace in my VE has made me decide on a big blower kit, but I would be hard pressed to ever spend more than maybe 60k on an aussie vehicle. I just dont think you get your moneys worth. I would dearly love a new Phoon / GT, but I just cant justify the coin for what you get. Maybe this might be a good time to hijack this thread and put up a pic of my barge. Now that's a sharp looking car hahaha as slow as it might be!!!