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Hello all. Names Sam and I’m from Tumut, a little town at the foot of the snowy mountains in country nsw.

I have always appreciated the turbo and have been on this forum hiding in the background since 2012.

 

A little bit of my background. 

I finished year 12 of high school in 2004 and went straight into a machanical engineering (fitting and machining) apprenticeship before the year ended. From there I learnt a lot from the trade as well as picking up fabrication skills mainly in stainless steel tig welding. The shop I worked for specialised in both machining and boiler making and fabrication. As a apprentice you tend to get shifted about a bit learning from all the tradesmen.

My hobbies back then were mainly fishing, camping, 4wd touring. Playing rugby league in the winter, cricket in the summer and playing golf in between.

 

My first car was a 1986 2.4 diesel Toyota 4Runner. (Still have it as my knock around Work car). Being non turbo it was a real slug. Especially after the 33” mud tyres and lift etc went on.  So I changed out the diff gears from 4.11 to 4.88 ratios and rolled like that fit a couple years. Then I built a high mount tubular style turbo manifold out of stainless steam pipe (with bung for egt probe) and built flanges on the milling machine on my lunch breaks.

After fitting them up I built a mandrel bent 3” stainless dump/exhaust with a hotdog muffler. A bit of a tweak on the injector pump according to egt and still happy as near 100k later. Next on the list for the old girl is top mount intercooling. Have the bits there to do it but never got around to it.

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2010 my beloved dragons won the nrl premiership and  I had a career change. I went in to be a production engineer at a local craft paper making mill doing 12 hour day/night shift basically 5 on 5 off. And still doing it.

2009 saw me buy a 2005 ba mk2 manual GT-P falcon in rapid yellow with 25k on the clock. Did all the usual bolt ons. Lowered suspension with bilstien shocks, full Difilippo exhaust, ballistic cats, underdrives etc. eventually bluepower air box,Herrod cams and blue power tune around 2011.

2012 saw me Drag race for the first time at the fordforums drag nationals where I travelled down with a group from Canberra. And seen me come home with the encouragement award. Bowing out of the dyo Comp by over running my dialed time running my pb for the weekend.

 

2013 I went back to the same event travelling with the same group. And come home with the trophy for the 12.00-13.99 dyo winner. (Haven’t been back since)

A couple more years went by having fun with the GT doing khanacross, short tracks on cootamundra airport  and hill climbs with Wagga car club.

 

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2015 seen a exploded diff so I installed a new harrop trutrac centre and second hand 4.11 gears bought from tweeked a year or so earlier.

 

To this day the hasn’t been any other major changes to the GT. Just issues with intermediate timing chain tensioner plastic guides on the drivers side bank. Done 3 of them now since the herrod cams and maybe 35k travelled. First time seen bent valves in 2014 on a qld holiday. So all new chains and sprockets, valves, machine work done through elite auto.  2016 was the 2nd time I got lucky and only had to remove the sump to clean out the plastic etc. 3rd time was at the start of this year about 40m down the road from home. I suspect some kind of engine harmonics are making the drivers side let go maybe from the cams. But this last time the plastic guide grabbed and went around the sprocket and caused a big skip in timing and broke most of the intake finger followers in half. No now it’s living in the garage unregistered until I figure out a plan and what direction I want to go with it. Possibly built motor to hand more revs, bigger cams and something around 200 shot of nitrous OR built motor with single turbo all dabbed up by me or procharger set up. (Brother has au Ute with built dart block/heads 363ci with pd Supercharger so would like to do something different in that regard). 

 

Now after all that jibberish leads me to here. 

Married, mortgage, two kids in daycare under 3 years old. Mrs is driving a 120 prado as the Mum bus. And my only running car was the trusty old 2 door 4runner which isn’t car seat friendly with the little ones.

 

I started looking around for something suitable for me to drive and run the kids around while the Mrs works. Looked at g6e, g6e turbo, f6e and dare I say it, some cammed Expensive Daewoo caprice and Calais. 

Also at this time my mums partner of something like 20 years recently retired and decided he would trade his ex cop 2007 bf mk2 turbo with the zf in winter white for a new mustang. He called me from the dealership he was thinking of accepting the trade in price of a measley $4k. I told him I would buy it from him for that, so I run to the bank and bought it off him for that price the same day. Happy as Larry. 

 

Now pics of the all important turbo

 

When I got it the paint looked cloudy and was in a pretty poor state. Some fading by some kind of chemical used to remove the police stickers. I should have gotten close up pics of it all to show what I mean but these two are the earliest pics I have of the car a few weeks after I went over with tardis to remove old wax that hadn’t been removed and tree sap, bugs and tar

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After about 18 hours of detailing fun over a few days...

3 stages of cut and polishes topped with Wolfgang fusion estate wax

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Very nice write up, buddy! :icon_ford:

 

Good to see you stick with the Fords. Went through a fair bit with your GT to keep it running... 

 

Looks like you're into a winner with the turbo. 

 

We come through and stay at Tumut before hitting the snowy mountains every year or so. Have probably seen us or we've seen you on the main street. Good spot. :spoton:

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Cheers Keith. 

 

There’s been a lot of sweet times in the GT for sure. The sour times though is far worse than the baddest warhead. 

Tumut is a decent town I reckon. Though locals here will complain and want out and blah blah blah. 

Theres other towns out there a lot worse off than us. Great river to swim in, bush for 4wd and motorbikes, dams for fishing, skiing wakeboading, coast isn’t too far away when it’s a good drive. Especially from here to Cooma as you’d know.

 

bad points for me is race tracks are a long way away. Especially if I break something.

 

definitely happy with the turbo. Going to slowly build it up as cheap as I can to get a stout 350rwkw. I’d be happy with that for a pretty much every day car.

 

I have two brothers into me already saying I drive slow cars. Mark has had a 320rw fg Xr6 turbo and sold it to buy a fg f6. Fully built it and turns near 600rwkw (e85) on bta tune/dyno. 

 

He doesnt quite understand the whole mortgage, kids and cost of living plus time

to stuff around in the shed fully yet. But I will get there in my own pace as things allow. 

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Fair dinkum... A 600kW bta car sounds a bit dodgy, but otherwise, does sound good.

 

Yeah, mid to low 300's is as high as you'd want to take a car that lives so far out. :spoton:

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Don’t know how accurate the bta dyno is. But 4th gear 60km and half throttle doesn’t have any trouble doing powerskids on 295/35 nitto invos

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Anyways, the first thing I bought for the car to make it more mine (since I’ve known it close to the family for so long) was bought a used turbosmart dual port bov for $100 delivered. Works a charm but makes me wish I had a manual car.

Next to change the look was different wheels. Got a hold of 4 genuine silver argents in almost perfect condition. One of them had never been mounted to a car. 

Chucked on some used spare tyres I had. Pirelli pzero 245/35 front and pzero 255/35 rears. Looks and fit fine. I was worried they might balloon a bit on 8” wide rims but looks perfect.

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Bought brand new rear king spring kfrl-68sssl for $145.25 delivered. And found matching brand new Monroe GT shocks to suit from a bloke on facebook delivered for $120.

has probably settled another 10mm since this pic was taken straight after.

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I have also bought second hand front springs for $80 kffl-57sl x. Removed a strut and tried to compress the spring by my spring compressors don’t grab too well and chickened out. So I’m waiting and will buy new front shocks and mount the spring on them. But for now the car doesn’t sit too bad I don’t think.

 

note: picked up the silver argents for $700. One had no tyre mounted. 2 had tyres down to the wear markers. One tyre about 80% remaining so kept it incase I find a 19” spare. Only mark on the rims was one of them has a really light scratch about a inch long that would disappear easily with a touch of 2000 grit wet and dry and little compound polish to bring out the shine. Hopefully get time to do so in my next days off.

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Thanks arronm, I thought this too when I was looking for springs but after measuring the lower spring seat to bolt centre suggested I needed the 57 spring. 

Also compared to my ba GT and appears to be the same. My car must have been built in the middle of the crossover somewhere.

 

which now leads me to a different question. Is there any way to tell the difference between the bf to bf2 motor? I was under the impression that the bf2 motor had stronger rods and springs or something like that?

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yep the post 06/2006 build XR6T BF's (which are mostly BF mk2's) have the slightly stronger piston and conrod combination in the BA F6's earlier.

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Nice write up mate!!

Where on earth did you find genuine argents in such good condition for $700?!? Gumtree?? FB? I've been looking for ages and haven't come across a deal that good still

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Funny story about this one.

After contemplating between silver argents and fg Xr6 lux packs I figured I’d go with the silver argents. Mainly because I could fit brembos behind them without issues and everyone and their dog seems to have dark argents. 

 

Initially I found a bloke on Facebook marketplace for a set of 5 genuine silver argents in ratty condition (guttered and stone chips galore but no buckles), no tyres and no centrecaps for $400 plus $25 each rim delivered. So $525 bank deposit to him, about $200 in Duplicolor paint, primer and clear plus another $250 in genuine fpv centrecaps while I waited. Organised a lathe to use to clean up the rash and also organised to be sent to wagga for sandblasting at Tasman grit with my brothers xy he just finished doing rust repairs on that he is fully rebuilding. 

After all of that a month passed and the bloke hasn’t even sent them. 

Ignored messages and excuses about finding the right size boxes to send them and blah blah blah I’m thibkibg I’ve been taken for a ride. 

I was speaking to Daniel (dans fpv parts) and he did recommend said bloke to me saying he is legit. But told him what was going on. Got him in the loop about the goings on with the wheels and my money. After about 8 weeks and help from dan I had my money back (pretty sure someone else offered said bloke more and sold them on me to someone able to pick them up there and then).

I have to give credit to Dan. He is A top bloke and I would recommend getting any used parts through him to anyone. Helped me out a bunch here. I was sure I had lost $525 over these wheels.

 

Anyways, after all that drama I sat down thinking what next, these wheels are a pain to find and then had a thought. A bloke I’ve played a bit of golf with here as well as went to tafe with for the same apprenticeship had bought a brand new fg gs with the 5.0 Supercharged motor a few years ago had put aftermarket wheels on it As soon as it was up for new tyres. So last week I send him a msg asking if he had the silver argents still and he said he did. Asked if I was after a set and I said I was considering silver argents for my turbo. He come back and said he doesn’t really know what they’re worth but $800. So I said $700 and he said done. And dropped them off to me the next day. WINNING lol

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After doing some scratching around on the web looking for intercoolers. I’ve come to the conclusion that I like the Plazmaman stuff over process West. Haven’t pulled the trigger on anything yet as I’m still hoping I can find something decent second hand for the right price up until I can definitely get in for a tune. Which will be some time away yet.

So what I have my eyes on at the moment is the 1000hp intercooler over the 800hp. Doesn’t seam to be a big difference in price and bigger is better right?

with that I had a look at their piping kits to suit. So 1000hp hot side and cold side to suit oem plenum. I like the looks of the forward facing plenum but for my $4000 car which just rolled over 170000km I don’t want to spend too much on it.

After looking at the hot side pipes listed on their site I noticed the option of the .5 and .7 cover “upgrade” which got me thinking again.

 

Is changing from .5 to .7 that beneficial? Should I be on the look out for a .7 cover and backing plate to potentially swap over? I do remember reading somewhere once upon a time that a bloke did just this and managed to make the same power as before but 2 or 3 psi less boost. ?

 

I will probably make my own turboside intake/box, oil catch can and 4” dump pipe with a ballistic cat. Then possibly use the standard cat back exhaust as I like the quietness of it. Or maybe even concider the stainless 2.5” xforce for $850 odd I seen listed somewhere as it is apparently reasonably quiet anyway.

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a GT3582R with just a .7 front cover (and other supporting mods) did a 9sec pass back in the day, so it can have a benefit, but there are more proven pathways for turbo upgrades. If you're going for 350ish at maximum, then you definitely don't need the .7 front cover as you'll just introduce some lag.

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I feel like I should keep the current turbo as is. Had a brand new core go in not all that long ago. It’s maybe 15000 km old.

But yeah 350 is a ballpark figure I’d like. I don’t want to build the motor. But I’d be happy to do valve springs and pump gears/timing set

At what sort of boost and power figures would warrant changing out the head bolts?

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Ditch the std exhaust and go twin 2.5 min if on budget. BA BF exhaust is really restrictive.. , especially the cat.

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I don’t plan on using the standard cat. Though I would be making my own stainless 4” dump pipe and use a 100cpi ballistic cat.

The main concern for me is I’d like to keep this car relatively quiet. And keeping costs down as much as possible on a car that initially cost me 4g would be a bonus.

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You don't really need a 4" dump and 1000hp cooler for 350rwkw. Definitely the cat, have a look in the 300rwkw club page or whatever its called and do some research it will save you a lot of money if you are into that...

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The 4” dump might be overkill? But I’ll be saving a fair bit there anyways if I build it myself. I reckon I can get that done for about $250-300 in stainless. And between the 800 and 1000hp plaza coolers there’s a difference of about $200 if I end up buying brand new.

I could also make my own exhaust but probably single 3.5” for ease and have a suitable resonator and big muffler. I’m just afraid it’ll be too loud or droney or both. 

I might start researching mufflers and resonators. In the past I’ve looked at the stuff from Borla but can’t remember their prices off the top of my head at this stage but probably around the $150-200 each plus materials so maybe around the $600 mark and a couple days work

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4" dump will be future proof. do it.

I found twin 2.5 exhaust system to be good for keeping drone at bay. great flow too. once again future proof (to a point).

 

I went twin 3.5" cats side by side. easily supporting 360ish rwkw

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My thoughts exactly. 

This twin cat side by side interests me also. I was going to go a 5” body 4” in/out ballistic cat but think the body size might make it hang a bit too low.

That exhaust combo and 360ish is perfect in my mind 

 

So I bought a dump. $100 delivered. 4” xforce. Maybe it’s too good to be true? Don’t know. Will find out in the next week or so I suppose. 

After inspection if I actually receive it, I’ll get it cleaned up and maybe ceramic coated. If no good I have a base to make a jig from and just build one based off this.

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Mandatory pic of a unclean cold turbo in my workplaces car park tonight

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Well this happened today..

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the bloke actually seemed genuine bassed  off our conversation and has transferred back my money plus a beer (fiver) which was good of him. Bit of a shame I missed this bargain and unfortunate for him to have gear stolen. Most would store in a better place but it is what it is.

 

The hunt for bargains continue for the meantime.

 

side note: I keep looking at my front brembos on the GT doing nothing at the moment..

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