masda74 To Loud Gold Donating Members 4,112 Member For: 13y 6m 20d Gender: Male Location: WA, Perth Posted 22/02/15 11:07 AM Author Share Posted 22/02/15 11:07 AM Well time for an update. I spoke to Dan recently and he made a good point about getting the rotors skimmed before putting the new pads in. So I dug out the OEM rotor rs and cleaned them up.I put the rotors in this morning along withe the OEM brake pads and I no longer have the shudder. 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/89687-brake-shudder-on-the-hunt-for-the-problem-over-heated-brake-fluid/page/13/#findComment-1531718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Stripes. All stock bar the k&n panel filter Silver Donating Members 8,061 Member For: 13y 3m 6d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 22/02/15 11:15 AM Share Posted 22/02/15 11:15 AM http://youtu.be/RzHPpy6osK4 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/89687-brake-shudder-on-the-hunt-for-the-problem-over-heated-brake-fluid/page/13/#findComment-1531723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
masda74 To Loud Gold Donating Members 4,112 Member For: 13y 6m 20d Gender: Male Location: WA, Perth Posted 24/02/15 06:44 AM Author Share Posted 24/02/15 06:44 AM Mine does a very similar thing (shudder) with DBA t2 slotted rotors and hpx pads front. Standard Ford rotors and pads rear.It actually seems to have gotten a lot better over the last few months though and I only notice it if slowing down fairly quickly from high speeds. Usually I just release the brakes and then get back on them if I feel it happening, sometimes that's not an option though.I've had an r33 gtst with dba4000 slotted and drilled + bendix ultimate (good but very dusty), a 180sx with rda slotted + hpx, vx clubsport r8 with dba4000 slotted and drilled + hpx pads.The fg is the only car I've had the problem with. My 180sx had all bushes replaced with polyurethane and my Clubsport has had all bushes replaced. What rotor and what pads are you using?I might have to test mine out soon and see if the problem is still there.If it is I'll probably try doing what Ralph said and replace bushes to see if that helps.Any update? have you checked to see if it is still there? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/89687-brake-shudder-on-the-hunt-for-the-problem-over-heated-brake-fluid/page/13/#findComment-1532060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeGe6 Donating Members 1,980 Member For: 12y 11m 12d Gender: Male Location: Perth, SOR Posted 25/02/15 11:51 AM Share Posted 25/02/15 11:51 AM Marco, have all the brake pads you have used with the T3's had the leading edge chamfered? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/89687-brake-shudder-on-the-hunt-for-the-problem-over-heated-brake-fluid/page/13/#findComment-1532198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
masda74 To Loud Gold Donating Members 4,112 Member For: 13y 6m 20d Gender: Male Location: WA, Perth Posted 25/02/15 11:57 AM Author Share Posted 25/02/15 11:57 AM The endure already had it from factory. From what I can remember, looking at the project nu and the bendix ultimates, they do too.Why do you ask? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/89687-brake-shudder-on-the-hunt-for-the-problem-over-heated-brake-fluid/page/13/#findComment-1532202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeGe6 Donating Members 1,980 Member For: 12y 11m 12d Gender: Male Location: Perth, SOR Posted 25/02/15 12:03 PM Share Posted 25/02/15 12:03 PM I was just wondering.I imagine the bevelled edge would travel over slots in disk better. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/89687-brake-shudder-on-the-hunt-for-the-problem-over-heated-brake-fluid/page/13/#findComment-1532206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
masda74 To Loud Gold Donating Members 4,112 Member For: 13y 6m 20d Gender: Male Location: WA, Perth Posted 06/04/15 06:50 AM Author Share Posted 06/04/15 06:50 AM Time for an update. The Bendix did not have the leading edge chamfered.Nope I did not do it like either. I just left it as is.I have put the DBA T3s back in along with the Bendix ultimates.Went for a test drive and have my braking power back. :DNo more shudder. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/89687-brake-shudder-on-the-hunt-for-the-problem-over-heated-brake-fluid/page/13/#findComment-1538528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotrana Member 2,586 Member For: 22y 2m 20d Gender: Male Posted 06/04/15 01:06 PM Share Posted 06/04/15 01:06 PM I've always used bendix ultimates to prevent shudder long term.I did try Ferodo DS recently with new T3s thinking that they were aggressive enough to keep the disc true. They started to shudder just after a few thousand km. Then without machining I swapped bendix ultimates in without machining of the disc. It took over 5000km to get rid of the shudder but it did true the disc up and no more shudder.They are dirty pads but they do have that good initial bite which is important for a street pad and keep the discs pretty true. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/89687-brake-shudder-on-the-hunt-for-the-problem-over-heated-brake-fluid/page/13/#findComment-1538602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormulaFG Donating Members 68 Member For: 11y 1d Posted 07/04/15 12:02 AM Share Posted 07/04/15 12:02 AM (edited) Good job Marco. This is the combo that I will have to use when I get my discs machined. Bendix Ultimates seem to be the only pad that work with the T3s.With hindsight I would never have gone slotted rotors and when the day comes for my brembo upgrade I'll be getting plain face rotors. I'll be staying well away from Bremtec as well. Edited 07/04/15 12:06 AM by FormulaFG Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/89687-brake-shudder-on-the-hunt-for-the-problem-over-heated-brake-fluid/page/13/#findComment-1538635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
masda74 To Loud Gold Donating Members 4,112 Member For: 13y 6m 20d Gender: Male Location: WA, Perth Posted 07/04/15 12:08 AM Author Share Posted 07/04/15 12:08 AM FormulaFg, could you please explain why you would not get slotted rotors? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/89687-brake-shudder-on-the-hunt-for-the-problem-over-heated-brake-fluid/page/13/#findComment-1538636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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