Motor Magazine

[Superdan]

So, just got the latest MOTOR mag in the post today (as I'm sure a few of us did), and for the first time in a long time I'm bloody disappointed!

Many-a-time the aussie car mags have left the XR6 Turbo out of relative comparisons, but this one just takes the cake.

"Extreme Tuners Modified Shootout" 'Drag+Dyno+Track'

This article, labeled with the tagline 'Local tuning houses step up as we thrash the best modified cars in Oz', features such heavyweights as the GT-R, GT2 and 991 Turbo all tuned by local tuners and pitted against each other at WSID.

What really gets me is the fact that the magazine quotes 'best modified cars in Oz', and not one mention of the XR6T (let alone F6). There is however TWO SS-V sedans, AND an SS-V ute from different 'tuning houses' (in italics for latter mentioned point)!

Before anyone jumps on and says that the ford turbo does get a run, it's the friggin G6ET!! (All due respect to G owners, I envy you, but we all know that it ain't the prized performance filly from the Ford stables). The tuning house picked to represent the ford family was, of course *drumroll* Herrod

Why, oh why MOTOR did you not include the T, or the F6? And involve any of the real 'tuning houses' in Australia!! Herrod... who? Best modified cars in Oz... say f*ckin what? Wtf have you been smokin? (and more importantly, puff, puff pass mu-fu!) My car has an off-the-shelf-tune from C&V Performance, a real Aussie tuning house, and no mention of them. So many 'real tuning houses' are out there, but they get no mention! You include Whiteline, who isn't a tuner at all, but a manufacturer that makes handling improvement components. The only 'tuning' that company did to the featured cars was adding their own handling products, and out-sourcing the 'tuning' to another company!!

What about XFT for the turbo fords? What about Gemballa for the Porsches? What about Xspeed for the jap imports?

MOTOR, if you want to do an article on Aus's best modified cars and their tuning houses, then by all means do it, but do it properly FFS!

End Rant... for now...

[PHANTMXR6]

Not to mention Nizpro.

[Buf-Phoon]

Waste of $8.75. None of the tuners mentioned tunes the fastest of the cars tested, track or strip. Farking farce.

Would almost like to see the Wog included other than that lot of chimps..except that Purple beast from KPM,

but that still only ran a 13. What gives there ? 460 rwkw. Obviously couldn't hook up but a very sh*t time none the less

Best pass 400m = 11.66 out of the lot.FFS

Fark I would even do the bastards cold overall. Absolute rubbish the lot.

Sure Luffy and co can drive but WTF

[Superdan]

We could almost team up with other forums and come up with our own *dot.dot.dot.*

[winstor]

Oh well looks like I am gonna save $8.75 this month :D

[Erko]

yeah I thought the same.

Herrod is a farking joke, always have been.

MOTOR will run the Tuner Shootout again next year and they have asked for shops to apply.

Personally, I think the Dyno / Drag / Circuit combo is a good one.....Obviously we have a number of T Tuners that will handle the first 2 disciplines with ease......not so much the Circuit aspect. However, with the right $$ spent and most importantly having the chassis side sorted I really think that the FG XR6T could finish high up on that list.

I really think a serious tuning house should look at this for next year for a bit of fun. The key will in making sure the tyre/wheel/suspension/geometry is set up right......and this needs testing and input from pro drivers before they get to the event. One other big consideration is the type of tune for circuit (progressive boost) is different to drag racing.

I think its really something that one of our tuners should take on board.

[RSK]

Well the competition is open again next year for all tuner's that think they can do better. The biggest issue to note though is that all car's had to meet ADR's, and not be defectable. A bit dissapointing to see the herrod XR8 last considering it's terminal speed at the end of the 1/4, I'm not sure if M/T's were allowed but were surely the demise of the higher powered RWD cars.

[Erko]

my thoughts..

FG XR6T 6M

Power wise, around 350+rwkw with very smooth boost progression to aid power down. We know the recipe for this...

AND

QUICK SHIFTER

KAAZ LSD

AP RACING OR MAL WOOD CLUTCH

BREMBO 4/ PBR REAR CALIPER OR AP RACING BUT MUST FIT WITH 18' WHEELS

HAWK BLUE PADS / BRAIDED LINES / DBA5000 ROTOR FRONT 4000 REAR

TEIN PERFORMANCE COILOVERS - AT A MINIMUM OR CUSTOM VALVED SHOCKS TO RUN BIG SPRING RATES

RE BUSH FRONT REAR WITH SUPERPRO

SWAY BARS - SIZE TO BE DETERMINED AFTER TRACK TESTING

WHEELS - LIGHTWEIGHT (JAP) 18X9 +25 FRONT 18X10+30 REAR WITH RE55 OR EQUIVALENT R COMPOUND TYRES

REPLACE FRONT SEATS WITH RECARO RACE TYPE AND HARNESS

UNDER CAR ADDITIONAL BRACING AS REQUIRED

that's something I would start with.....obviously the ADR question is one to look at, but I am very interested to know how keenly that rule us policed

[RSK]

TEIN PERFORMANCE COILOVERS - AT A MINIMUM OR CUSTOM VALVED SHOCKS TO RUN BIG SPRING RATES

WHEELS - LIGHTWEIGHT (JAP) 18X9 +25 FRONT 18X10+30 REAR WITH RE55 OR EQUIVALENT R COMPOUND TYRES

Sadly adjustable coilovers arn't legal on a street car and the rear wheels being 10" would put the rear track width out of legal spec.

I had a quick read of the comparison last night but neglected the jap 4wd cars (Evo/wrx) as they don't interest me, but they both appeared to be MIDLY tuned.

Herrod blew 11g on an engine WTF. It would take around that amount of money to have the evo/wrx put out 250rwkw, and they would run flat/mid 1/4 times on street tyres

[Erko]

from what I read a number of those cars were running coilovers....in any case the issue is height adjustment. You can do they same job with springs and bump/rebound adjustable shocks. for the wheels, you could run 9' +25 without even needing an engineers cert in NSW. The wheel track issue is measured from the wheels centreline.....so its a product of offset, not width. And I beleive you can get + 2' engineered in NSW. You can run 12mm less offset than stock per side (stock at +36) before you get into wheel track problems with the authorities....

A lot of those cars were highly modified with upwards of 50k spent on mods.