I wasn't referring to Top Gear magazine, which is pretty much the UK mag with a few Aussie bits mixed in.

put any editor in a new car and see who he starts raving about

Everyone knows that models sold to the public can get nowhere near the times that Holdens press cars can. Its not hard to figure out they make hot ones for the press, it was obvious when Motor put them on the dyno and the Holdens made near as much grunt as the HSV's.

as do ford - those awsome 80-120 times floting about for the xr6t are suspect. There has been a few instances where people have got hold of ex media cars and have been told not to update the ecu as they will loose the special tune.

all manufacturers do it - (remember when some one put a boost guage on a media wrx many years ago?)

but unless we want to pay heaps more for independant testing - wadya gunna do.

All Ford cars in Motors test dynoed around the same as what you would expect. Holdens cars were way out of wack.

(remember when some one put a boost guage on a media wrx many years ago?)

nope, care to share??

Tuning - yes

Extreme tuning - hardly (except for KPM)

Herrod - seriously................

FYI

Main Entry: ex·treme

1 a : existing in a very high degree <extreme poverty> b : going to great or exaggerated lengths : radical <went on an extreme diet> c : exceeding the ordinary, usual, or expected <extreme weather conditions>

2 archaic : last

3 : situated at the farthest possible point from a center <the country's extreme north>

4 a : most advanced or thoroughgoing <the extreme political left> b : maximum

5 a : of, relating to, or being an outdoor activity or a form of a sport (as skiing) that involves an unusually high degree of physical risk <extreme mountain biking down steep slopes> b : involved in an extreme sport <an extreme snowboarder>

synonyms see excessive

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