bugster70 Donating Members 1,326 Member For: 20y Location: Canberra Posted 12/10/06 05:10 AM Share Posted 12/10/06 05:10 AM ...but the fact remains that bigger brakes will not stop you faster* *(conditions apply) ← Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/29229-upgraded-brakes/page/4/#findComment-447946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxx Colossal Member Member 5,049 Member For: 20y 8m 9d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 12/10/06 05:27 AM Share Posted 12/10/06 05:27 AM I just explained two identical situations... from speed v and stock brakes I stopped in distance d... with premium brakes and speed v I stoped in distance <<d - Same tyres on each occasion!So are you still going to tell me that the bigger brakes made no difference? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/29229-upgraded-brakes/page/4/#findComment-447951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordak Member 1,226 Member For: 20y 10m 24d Posted 12/10/06 05:29 AM Share Posted 12/10/06 05:29 AM Speed also comes into this, stock brakes will not activate ABS at 200km/h, no matter how hard you jump on them. Larger brakes may very well activate ABS at these speeds. ←Yes, this is implied in the Brembo quote and also in my previous posts. Speed and repetivity are the major factors.I think where a lot of people with bigger brakes might be getting confused is in the different pedal feel a better system will offer. The brakes will 'feel' a lot stronger, probably biting earlier and quicker and requiring much less pedal pressure for the same braking power. The pedal will also feel 'firmer', especially if braided lines have been fitted as part of the upgrade. I imagine that, for the SAME PEDAL PRESSURE APPLIED, a better brake package probably WILL stop the car quicker than the stock setup - but all the stocker has to do is apply more pressure. Factors like these may lead people to believe that their bigger brakes will pull their car up quicker? ←I think you've summed it up right there oh "Sensible and Wise one" So in theory, people who never drive at "high" speeds who still want better feeling brakes at a reasonable cost may want to consider getting some braded line (providing you can get them for stockies).If on the other hand you think you might occasionally drive @ an irresponsible speed and want the confidence in knowing that your brakes won't let you down go the upgraded brakes.So what have we learned today kiddies...........that's right..........BIGGER BRAKES WILL NOT MAKE YOU STOP FASTER........JUST BETTER Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/29229-upgraded-brakes/page/4/#findComment-447954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugster70 Donating Members 1,326 Member For: 20y Location: Canberra Posted 12/10/06 05:29 AM Share Posted 12/10/06 05:29 AM I just explained two identical situations... from speed v and stock brakes I stopped in distance d... with premium brakes and speed v I stoped in distance <<d - Same tyres on each occasion!So are you still going to tell me that the bigger brakes made no difference?←Not at all, just that either v was a very large number and/or you have some pretty special tyres. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/29229-upgraded-brakes/page/4/#findComment-447955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugster70 Donating Members 1,326 Member For: 20y Location: Canberra Posted 12/10/06 05:35 AM Share Posted 12/10/06 05:35 AM I think you've summed it up right there oh "Sensible and Wise one" Huh? Who, me?! First time I've been called that in my life!! So in theory, people who never drive at "high" speeds who still want better feeling brakes at a reasonable cost may want to consider getting some braded line (providing you can get them for stockies).←Well, yeah, and another low cost but excellent option would be to go for the DBA 4000 series slotted rotors and better pads - this will give you most of what the premium brakes offer anyway and would be more than sufficient for most of us. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/29229-upgraded-brakes/page/4/#findComment-447957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,332 Member For: 19y 7m 10d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 12/10/06 05:36 AM Share Posted 12/10/06 05:36 AM Speed also comes into this, stock brakes will not activate ABS at 200km/h, no matter how hard you jump on them. Larger brakes may very well activate ABS at these speeds. ←Yes, this is implied in the Brembo quote and also in my previous posts. Speed and repetivity are the major factors.I think where a lot of people with bigger brakes might be getting confused is in the different pedal feel a better system will offer. The brakes will 'feel' a lot stronger, probably biting earlier and quicker and requiring much less pedal pressure for the same braking power. The pedal will also feel 'firmer', especially if braided lines have been fitted as part of the upgrade. I imagine that, for the SAME PEDAL PRESSURE APPLIED, a better brake package probably WILL stop the car quicker than the stock setup - but all the stocker has to do is apply more pressure. Factors like these may lead people to believe that their bigger brakes will pull their car up quicker? ←I think you've summed it up right there oh "Sensible and Wise one" So in theory, people who never drive at "high" speeds who still want better feeling brakes at a reasonable cost may want to consider getting some braded line (providing you can get them for stockies).If on the other hand you think you might occasionally drive @ an irresponsible speed and want the confidence in knowing that your brakes won't let you down go the upgraded brakes.So what have we learned today kiddies...........Thats right..........BIGGER BRAKES WILL NOT MAKE YOU STOP FASTER........JUST BETTER ←Man you crack me up Steve.... lets all agree to disagree and go to the pub.... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/29229-upgraded-brakes/page/4/#findComment-447959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugster70 Donating Members 1,326 Member For: 20y Location: Canberra Posted 12/10/06 05:40 AM Share Posted 12/10/06 05:40 AM lets all agree to disagree and go to the pub.... ←Now that's the best idea I've heard all day. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/29229-upgraded-brakes/page/4/#findComment-447961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest newl Guests Posted 12/10/06 05:42 AM Share Posted 12/10/06 05:42 AM Hey Luke, is it your shout? =D Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/29229-upgraded-brakes/page/4/#findComment-447963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley Scott www.australianflag.org.au Donating Members 6,763 Member For: 19y 9m 16d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 12/10/06 05:47 AM Share Posted 12/10/06 05:47 AM This thread is reminicient of the Forum of old. Go on tell me to piss of jube.ScottyGood debate guys. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/29229-upgraded-brakes/page/4/#findComment-447967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxx Colossal Member Member 5,049 Member For: 20y 8m 9d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 12/10/06 05:53 AM Share Posted 12/10/06 05:53 AM Look guys I have told you all already, the damn plane will still take off regardless of the speed of the conveyor belt... unless it has premium brakes on it Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/29229-upgraded-brakes/page/4/#findComment-447969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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