Motor's Oz Performance Car Showdown

[Adam]

:biggun: @ Buf-Phoon.

Typhoon is King in this Aussie PCOTY with a Expensive Daewoo nowhere to be seen in the top 3.

It's a good thing the 6T's were there, the Ford V8's didn't put on a very good show!

The Typhoon was the only car to cover the 400m in under 14 seconds, running a 13.96 @ 167km/h.

Hold on Darren let me have a look...

[FPV TRANNY]

Why cant motor get the times that other Phoon owners have run eg 13.1

that's almost a full sec differance :biggun:

Anyway congrats to the TURBOS

[Adam]

Ok first we'll go with the lap times from Winton:

1st: HSV Clubsport DTS: 1:42.95

2nd: FPV F6 Typhoon (A): 1:44.60

3rd: XR6 Turbo (M): 1:44.95

4th: Late model camira SS: 1:45.80

5th: XR6 Turbo (A): 1:45.90

6th: HSV GTO Coupe: 1:45.95

7th: FPV Falcon GT: 1:46.05

8th: Falcon XR8: 1:46.50

Now for 0-100km/h and 0-400m times:

1st: FPV F6 Typhoon: 5.79 and 13.96 @ 167km/h.

2nd: HSV Clubsport DTS: 5.89 and 14.08 @ 161.7km/h.

3rd: Ford XR6 Turbo (A): 6.29 and 14.37 @ 167.2km/h.

4th: HSV GTO Coupe: 6.28 and 14.43 @ 161.4km/h.

5th: Expensive Daewoo Late model camira SS: 6.35 and 14.48 @ 160.6km/h.

6th: Ford XR6 Turbo (M): 6.30 and 14.55 @ 164.5km/h.

7th: Ford XR8: 6.59 and 14.72 @ 158.0km/h.

8th: FPV GT: 6.96 and 14.95 @ 157.7km/h.

Finally for the overall rankings and price as tested:

1st: FPV F6 Typhoon $63,460

2nd: Ford XR6 Turbo (M) $46,405

3rd: Ford XR6 Turbo (A) $47,655

4th: HSV Clubsport DTS $78,925 :biggun:

5th: HSV GTO Coupe $78,990

6th: Expensive Daewoo Late model camira SS $51,790

7th: Ford XR8 $52,580

8th: FPV GT $62,210

GO FORD! FALCON TURBO 6's RULE!

[Adam]

Why cant motor get the times that other Phoon owners have run eg 13.1

that's almost a full sec differance :biggun:

Anyway congrats to the TURBOS

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Because times ran with their VBox give a slower result than what shows up on the track due to "roll out".

They've proven this before with a 911 Turbo.

[ZAP]

I bet they do not stall the auto's up as it would create a unfair comparison for the turbo's over the V8's and also the manual v Auto

With the VBox being so accurate, I am sure that a stalled F6 with normal 1/4 timing would get into the low 13's as has been proven by other here.

Well done Ford/FPV

[Adam]

Zap, as explained times at the track are always quicker than times from the Vbox. See here...

Motor Magazine has explained why they record slower times than what can be achieved at the drag strip in the August '05 issue.

VBOX vs Drag Strip Times - Ever Beaten MOTOR's Performance Times? This Is Why.

For six months, our new VBox has been pumping out performance numbers, but this was the first time we'd tested it against the beams of a measured track. So why, we were wondering, did the VBox spit out numbers around 0.4 seconds slower than the track timers? Blame roll-out.

At drag meetings, two staging beams - those two white lights on top of the starting tree - mark the start line. The timer starts when the car moves and uncovers the second beam, a distance close to 30cm - what is called roll-out. A hard launching car like the 911 Turbo S is already travelling 7km/h by this distance which translates to a time that's interesting but inaccurate against magazine figures. So while MOTOR's figures are accurate and repeatable, times recorded at a drag strip will always be quicker than our times recorded by the sat-nav based VBox, by around 0.2-0.4 seconds.

For the record the Porsche 911 Turbo S recorded a VBox time of 12.47 and the drag strip time was 11.998 @ 186.29km/h.

:biggun:

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[ZAP]

Thanks Adam, I know about the VBox and how accurate it is ( very ), but I was saying that with normal 1/4 track timing and stalling the F6 would result in a better time.

[Adam]

I think they would stall it.

I've read plenty of articles before where they've talked about the amount of attempts at trying to run the fastest 1/4 they could in a number of cars.

This articles actually states...

Without the need for the delicate balancing act between revs, boost, bogging and traction of the manual, the six speed auto proves it's the best box behind the F6. Don't worry about manually shifting, just slot the lever into performance mode, load up the throttle against the brake to build some boost and step off.

[Lumpen]

Thanks Adam, I know about the VBox and how accurate it is ( very ), but I was saying that with normal 1/4 track timing and stalling the F6 would result in a better time.

I'm sure the forum has covered this before, to the extent one of the members emailed Motor and asked them their testing proceedure. It was even printed in Motor.I believe it was Dean (XRDreaming?)

The reply is here on the forum but basically they will test the cars in what-ever way will give them the best performance including stalling the auto.

Lumpy

[Dr Z]

Interesting to see that the Auto XR6T has the same trap speed as the F6. Congratulations Ford/FPV!

The more aware people are of the OEM performances from blown 6's, let alone slightly modded with Edit etc, perhaps we may see a continued growing generational trend away from traditionally loved V8s?

Finally, if the Holden/HSV's are NOT now as competitive with the Ford/FPV blown 6, imagine how poorly they will rate in comparison when they add all that extra weight on the VE's!

Folks, enjoy making history...enjoy being part of this new Ford/FPV performance era!

Safe and happy driving...Dr Z.