lol well we looked at a land cruiser (to much money and to heavy on fuel) , territory (to small and to heavy on fuel) , prado (crap ride not enough leg room) patrol (no leg room and to gut less). Then we looked at a Jeep commander , smooth ride good on fuel 9.9l / 100km heaps of room. I sold it for $27 000. My wifes uncle has had jeep cherokees for years and he rekons they keep getting better, oh well ill guess ill have to wait and see. the new 3.0l is made by mercedes so it should be fine. ...... I hope. Oh and before I forget I would just like to thank Rodger Cordia for all his insperation, if it wasnt for him I would have never cracked the 14s quarter, lol.