Rudd didn't get where he is because people wanted him in, he got there because people wanted the other mob out. And if you want to go even further back, I don't think we did so well through the GFC because of them, I think we did well because we came into it in pretty good nick. Slightly off topic though. The comment about "if there's profit in it..." is half-right. Problem is, the profit is now almost halved. Previously it was a 70% after-tax profit, now it's going to be 42%. It's like saying as long as there is a salary, someone will do the job. Someone trims your salary by that same amount, are you gonna hang around? Probably not, and as long as there is a salary someone will end up in the job. But even that is a very simplistic view. Again, this isn't just something that you can hire someone new. These are LONG term things we're talking about here. You don't just set up shop for a couple of months.