Ford Vs Holden Show...

[Street Tuner]

This run, performed in WA over two years ago now showed just how easy it is to take a stock car and apply a heap of gas to run a ten. Yani, who did this was years ahead of those that are just discovering 10s via gas now. He did it with stock gears, stock cam, stock just about everything, and no Unichip, no Edit, just piles of nitrous.

Taken from the ls1.com.au quick list

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Name: "10s easy" (HSV Maloo VU Ute) 2D Ute, est. 3575lb WA

10.91@125 mph. , 1.53 60 foot, H, Nitrous, A4, 3.07, S

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An excellent achievement for sure, but where is the engineering skill and street customer relevance in continually throwing nitrous at a stock engine until it blows in search of a time? Yani is the first to admit it, and never made a big deal about it.

Its good that you seen to have discovered the benefit of nitrous (watch it Pete once the times start coming the gas is addictive!), but from an engineering purity and achievement give me straight pump fuel performance any day.

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Its good that you seen to have discovered the benefit of nitrous (watch it Pete once the times start coming the gas is addictive!), but from an engineering purity and achievement give me straight pump fuel performance any day.

What does this mean? I have no idea what your on about, or have you been sniffing gas?

Peter

[Street Tuner]

Surely Peter you are aware of and admit to the use of nitrous oxide on your representatives - C&V Performance - VY Late model camira that ran the 10.77 second quarter mile pass. Sorry mate, it wasnt just the Unichip!

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Surely Peter you are aware of and admit to the use of nitrous oxide on your representatives - C&V Performance - VY Late model camira that ran the 10.77 second quarter mile pass. Sorry mate, it wasnt just the Unichip!

Yes I am aware that the Expensive Daewoo runs gas , though the APS phase III XR6T which ran the 10.98 pass does not run GAS which is what I am more interested in. By the way how many LSI commodores have run in the 10's. You did not answer this question.

Peter

Edited 29/02/04 07:51 AM by aps

[Street Tuner]

Two that I know of. Both cars with big nitrous systems

Since there was alledgedly no nitrous involved in the 10 second pass, what fuel was the car running?

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Two that I know of. Both cars with big nitrous systems

Since there was alledgedly no nitrous involved in the 10 second pass, what fuel was the car running?

Well Martin if it has taken 5 years to have 2 LSI powered commodores running in the 10's, how can you seriously suggest that the APS xr6t is not in the hunt , after all it has only taken APS and CandV a little over 1 year to get the xr6t into the 10's.

With a little more development of the xr6t I am confident we will be in the 9's in the not to distant future. You would have to be wondering why it has taken so long to get the Expensive Daewoo into the 10's.

As to the fuel question, I am surprised that you asked, what does any serious drag racer use? I would have thought you have been around long enough to know the answer.

Peter

APS

[100%]

Pete, you guys seem to have all the time in the world to go to Expensive Daewoo and Ford shows where the cars sit static all weekend save for the odd dyno run. Im sure then you could find the time to drive three hours up the road on a Saturday morning to put on a graphic display of your products capabilities against your main marketing and engineering rivals. After all, that's really what the consumer wants to see - a shootout - not *beep* footing around the difficult questions....like 'what times will she run?'

I think you will find it hard to resist that challenge.

Well I know this consumer has seen the APS car at Calder many a time on a Friday night showing "what times will she run", so any time you wish to go and prove yourself wrong about how fast this LS1 relic, boat anchor motor, can be, feel free. With a current best of 10.7 on gas, you don't have much to spruke about me thinks. Every Friday gates open at 5pm, bullsh*t stops at 6pm, not just one particular Saturday in April that might get rained out

[Street Tuner]

Actually Pete a serious drag racer uses Nitromethane.....

Theres any one of many different ANDRA approved fuels C&V could have run in their car, most likely though a VP product like C21 at around 125+RON. The answer to the question is not an obvious one.

For 9s though mate, bigger bottle needed!

[Street Tuner]

Sorry Pete I missed the earlier thing about five years to get into the 10s. In fact it took a bloke at home in Perth two years to get his stocker HSV into the 10s. No fancy tie ups with big dollar companies. Nothing like that.

You do have to wonder though why it took a professional workshop with untold more times the facilities than the back yard bloke and a dedicated R&D partner like APS half the time. Its been a stretch!

[Street Tuner]

Well I know this consumer has seen the APS car at Calder many a time on a Friday night showing "what times will she run", so any time you wish to go and prove yourself wrong about how fast this LS1 relic, boat anchor motor, can be, feel free. With a current best of 10.7 on gas, you don't have much to spruke about me thinks. Every Friday gates open at 5pm, bullsh*t stops at 6pm, not just one particular Saturday in April that might get rained out

Yeah, you miss the point though Bud. I betya my dinosaur has run a faster time than your twin cam Crossflow!....all with less oil leaks

Jokes aside though, what times does your car run, its obviously an APS (or Nizpro) built car?