Cam timing solenoids

[dayjunkie]

Hey T junkies, 

Anyone know if I can remove the 2 cam timing solenoids for cleany just by removing rocker cover and without removing the entire cam assembly,,,because that would really suck. 

[Ralph Wiggum]

which but would really suck,,,,,,removing just the rocker cover or,,,,,,removing the cam assembly?

 

either way rocker cover off only. 

[dayjunkie]

The cam assembly would be a real hassel to remove,  I just want to make certain the solenoids arent stickin or clogged, its 1 of the last checks to solve my ongoing intermittent 'Cam position Timing over-retard fault'.

[Ralph Wiggum]

very easy to remove.

 

If you're lucky and have the early style with no retaining bracket they will slide out without removing the recover cover.

 

If you're getting cam timing faults codes and not came solenoid errors it's more likely a timing chain issue so it would pay to remove the rocker box either way to verify cam timing.

[dayjunkie]

Thanks mate, pickin up a gasket now, im hoping solenoids unbolt and slide in and out without any complications.

 

Hope its not a chain, heard gotta drop engine to do, might be time to get another bank loan and put Atomic Short engine in.

Edited 19/05/16 05:38 AM by dayjunkie

[Ralph Wiggum]

Engine does not need to be removed to replace the Timing gear.

[Trent0]

You're talking about the 2 in the front of the cover?

I had similar codes come up and one of the sensors has split, knocked it back together and problem fixed.

[dayjunkie]

Any tips on turning the harmonic balancer by hand to see if the timing chain matches up,or is it as straight forward as I that

[JETURBO]

21mm socket on the balancer bolt 

 

remove the plugs,fans and go for gold until you see this 

 

[dayjunkie]

thanks mate, not sure how this is possible but my sprokets in that position are 180 degrees out to the the yellow links.  Sprokets in that position match balancer alignment though.

I had billet chain , pump gears, replaced 8 years ago so its possible that mechanic measured time from another angle.

Another crack it tomoz probably got another rotation left to spanner around...