ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 19y 8d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 31/10/12 11:32 AM Share Posted 31/10/12 11:32 AM a thing we have to remember that as progress happens, the strength will become greater, I remember when people threw powerglides away as they are rubbish, well they are until they are replaced with mostly aftermarket parts and these days you can build a glide with out even using a GM part.The same applied to C4's you would chuck them and fit a FMX 2 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/82396-pb-and-fg-zf-record/page/12/#findComment-1318287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP_HSV HOON Member 1,636 Member For: 15y 2m 20d Gender: Male Location: W.A Posted 31/10/12 11:40 AM Share Posted 31/10/12 11:40 AM C4 = best mod I've ever done to my ute Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/82396-pb-and-fg-zf-record/page/12/#findComment-1318295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum Donating Members 553 Member For: 16y 12d Gender: Male Posted 31/10/12 11:55 AM Share Posted 31/10/12 11:55 AM (edited) Hopefully without coming across as rude, People with turbo400's glides etc do you ever second geuss your decision of converting to a different gearbox/get the sh*ts when Christians and soon to be more ZF's achieve faster times than you? Edited 31/10/12 11:57 AM by possum 2 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/82396-pb-and-fg-zf-record/page/12/#findComment-1318301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qik1 Silver Donating Members 2,720 Member For: 17y 24d Gender: Male Location: Loitering in SEQ Posted 31/10/12 12:08 PM Share Posted 31/10/12 12:08 PM Our th400 is yet to be fitted & I could live with rebuilds but our software issue cant be worked around & as for going faster that's a big call, all the major players (mid 9's) & lower use th400 or glides so might be abit premature to suggest there obsolete Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/82396-pb-and-fg-zf-record/page/12/#findComment-1318308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
allmtr Member 512 Member For: 16y 2m 28d Gender: Male Location: Newcastlish Posted 31/10/12 01:22 PM Share Posted 31/10/12 01:22 PM Hopefully without coming across as rude, People with turbo400's glides etc do you ever second geuss your decision of converting to a different gearbox/get the sh*ts when Christians and soon to be more ZF's achieve faster times than you?The problem with your argument is that Christian's car would go even quicker with a glide... 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/82396-pb-and-fg-zf-record/page/12/#findComment-1318351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Donating Members 1,205 Member For: 14y 20d Gender: Male Location: Burwood, NSW Posted 31/10/12 01:27 PM Share Posted 31/10/12 01:27 PM I dont know who christian is, but if he was to get a glide then that car is then a 1/4 mile car and not a daily.so I see the point possum is making.either way, do what you want to your car to suit your needs. if a cvt trans is what puts a smile on your dial then who is to say you shouldnt do it?same goes for c4 vs t400 vs zf vs anything else anyone can think of Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/82396-pb-and-fg-zf-record/page/12/#findComment-1318354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednose RNS10S Donating Members 2,229 Member For: 18y 9m 19d Gender: Male Posted 31/10/12 02:40 PM Share Posted 31/10/12 02:40 PM The problem with your argument is that Christian's car would go even quicker with a glide...I agree but were does it stop, I bet it would go quicker again with a GTX 42 or 45.If the ZF can be made strong enough to cope with the power then I personally see no point in swapping boxes.We will shortly see what a properly built Nizpro big banger ZF can do in a twin turbo 5.0L pumping out 600 - 750 rwkw 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/82396-pb-and-fg-zf-record/page/12/#findComment-1318381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qik1 Silver Donating Members 2,720 Member For: 17y 24d Gender: Male Location: Loitering in SEQ Posted 31/10/12 03:51 PM Share Posted 31/10/12 03:51 PM I hope they succeed but I think there gonna hit there fair share of hurdles before they get there & make these things a genuine all rounder. We were one of the first to race with a genuine 600kw (run in the top or 3rd & 4th) & the box does not like it, not to mention I think there in for some software hurdles that the blokes running mid 400's 500kw havent come up against yet.As it was mentioned earlier the built boxes we race with now were once rubbish til the aftermarket companies went to town on them. Good on nizpro for having a proper crack at it & trying to create a balance between what is the best street box & something that can cop a genuine hiding at the track & run numbers like we're seeing run these days & still walk away that perfect street driven box. Good luck on your next outing, everytime ya go out no doubt ya learn something & gain that little bit more experience, with the right combination of things coming together ive got no doubt that 9's only around the corner Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/82396-pb-and-fg-zf-record/page/12/#findComment-1318392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 19y 8d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 31/10/12 10:12 PM Share Posted 31/10/12 10:12 PM The problem with your argument is that Christian's car would go even quicker with a glide...why?Christians car is his everyday car, if he was to convert to glide, he would need a convertor, and diff gear change (etc etc) and despite what some will try to make others believe, a high stalled auto with drag gears is not an ideal street car, yes it can be driven but will not have the same manners, economy as Christians car does now. Nizpro's tuning package, Yarra Valley's auto and Christians driving have made a great car 3 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/82396-pb-and-fg-zf-record/page/12/#findComment-1318436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
allmtr Member 512 Member For: 16y 2m 28d Gender: Male Location: Newcastlish Posted 01/11/12 04:08 AM Share Posted 01/11/12 04:08 AM A glide could take a 5000 stall and a TB and eat that up. A ZF is SO far away from being able to take a big stall/TB. Goulva is leaving in the 2-3000 rpm range, imagine the difference in torque leaving in the 4500-5500 rpm range.... My post was in response to 1/4 times and has NOTHING to do with streetability. A ZF kills a glide for streetability. There comes a time when you have to forgo streetability to go fast. I think a glide would/can be streetable but not as nice to drive as a ZF. Once your in the low 10's/high 9's you have a big decision to make.... 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/82396-pb-and-fg-zf-record/page/12/#findComment-1318685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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