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Im pretty sure that the 140km still stands and you will prob find that the 30km rule applies to provisional licenses holders or if you are charged with other offenses on top such as dangerous driving and have to face court in NSW.But I guess that law being what it is and what it always will be it is opened to different interpretations and created by government bodies to confuse us. After all our law makers do have the hungery mouths of judges and solicitors to feed.

I was totally honest with the cop and he said "mmmm 104km in a 70km zone, you should know better", I apologized and admitted I was wrong. He returned and quoted "you know 30km and over is suspension of license and a large fine?" I thought DAMN there goes my license, then he said "so I lowered it for you to 15km and over". You should of told the Highway Patrol cowboy that he should go back to his to his station and read up on and learn the fine and demerit point system here in NSW. 30km over and under 45km is 4 points and $972, over 45km is 6 points and $1677 the exceptions being school zones with higher points and fines and on days with double demerit points. The other exception is speed limits posted at 110, anything over 140km will see you lose your license with a very big fine to go with it, that's were the 30km and over and loss of license rule comes into play.

I will get pics up tommorrow. Personally I think that it visually balances the rear of the car. The rear muffler is different between the F6 and XR6t in the chrome tip but not sure if internals are the same.

Got my FG XR6T retuned today at C&Vs due to the fact that it didnt really like the FG GT duel rear exhaust that I stuck on it, it felt a little slower, developed a little flat spot and fuel consumption went up a bit but with 300rwkw from their last tune I was willing to give up a few kWs for the look of the left and right rear exhausts, which I really like. So you can imagine my suprise when I picked up the car this afternoon and was told that she is now putting out 315 rwkw after the retune. What suprised me even more was the difference that those extra 15 KWs made. The Car doesnt sound as loud as before ( had a FG F6 rear muffler ,which I will be selling soon) but it does make a nice sound low down especially when its cruising. My next big decision will be either to install the FG F6 turbo that Ive got sitting in my garage or just leave the car as it is. I spoke to Con about it and he promised me an extra 40 kw+ but personally at the moment I think that 355+rwkw is a little overkill for a car that will never see the track, BUT the thought is on my mind.

But dont they take an XT and add a few bits of plastic, new bumper and wheels and some extra pieces down the production line and presto... an XR??

Lets be fair to Ford here, Ford have a 51% stake in FPV and the other 49% belongs to prodrive. www.prodrive.com This is the mob that takes a standard XT and redevelopes it into a FPV. They do all the engineering and developement that involves FPV and with all their years of experiance especially with the super performance euros you would think that they would of gotten it right with the Brembos on the FGs first time. And to restate, this problem with the shudder effects FPV's with 6/4 pot from fact ory also so the booster and master have nothing to do with the problem.

I see you are from Sydney "ZAP"!get in contact with the dealership in the city , the service dept know of the problem or at least the service manager does.

Thanks Senna, I stand corrected :blush:

I did say DEFAULT turbo timer. it might not be a timer to keep the motor running to the turbo cools down but the fans do come on to cool the whole motor. in the end you get somewhat of the same result, wouldnt you say?

You people realize that the FG turbos have a default turbo timer. if the motor temp is hi when you switch the ignition off then the thermo fan stays on untill it cools down to a reasonable temp. Ive had mine stay on form as long as 10 second to over half a minute after Ive got out and locked the car. Had one bloke come up behind me once to tell me that I had left my motor running.

Its the front left hand ABS sensor activating the ABS system. Spoke to Mathew at Race Brakes and he seems to think that it might have something to do with the positioning of the brake calipers( 180 degrees to the rear of the disc , BF's were at an angle to the front of the disc). Either way Ford will have to come up with a fix for the FPV's and Im sure it will also resolve the issue with the aftermarket installations. Im gathering that it will either be a sensor upgrade or tone wheel upgrade or even a new braket so that the caliper wont sit at 180 degrees.

Hi everyone, Yes there is an issue with the 6/4 pot set up with the FG's but it doesnt only effect the aftermarket installs but also the FPV's with 6/4 setup from factory. The shudder comes from the left hand front brakes and usually comes on when you apply the brakes when the road surface is uneven and traveling below 15 k/h. I had my done and experienced the shudder within the first hour. Checked with my mates at spare parts and was told that the booster and master were the same through out the FG range. Spoke to the Service manager were I used to work at and he told me that he had a Black GTP come in that morning with the same problem, and it was the 4th one within the last 2 months. Ford do know of this problem with the FPV's and are working on a fix. I will be calling him back up in 2 weeks to see if there has been any updates from Ford on this issue.

Hey George its all good. I went through exactly the same thing, so much so that I went back to 2 other Ford dealerships and took their Turbos for a drive to make sure and they made exactly the same box sounds and turbo noises. What made it worse with me was that I found a written communicay ,in the pocket behind the drivers seat , between an engineer and a tester regarding a noisy turbo which carried on for 5 days and 40 kays of travelling. One thing though when I got my car tuned the turbo went a lot quieter, maybe because of the extra PSI ??

how many of you are talking through experience or just hear say. Ive got paint protection and could not be happier. just remember while you blokes are polishing Im cruising

sorry gents but do your self a big favour and save yourselves alot af timeand money and go get paint protection. paid under $500 for mine when I got my car, havent waxed it once after 6 months I just wash it once a week,and it still outshines all my mates cars after they polish or wax them. Even now even though its dirty because of the rain, from a few meters away you would think that the car had just been polished. BUT if you want a product that will out shine most other product out their especially with dark colours then Superior Polish by Auto Glym is for you. its what a lot of the prestige auto dealers use on black and grey cars just before you drive it out of the show room. It will not leave one streak on the paint work and it wont turn unprotected plastics or rubber white. shine lasts for weeks.

Sorry Nick, no its not.

Hi buddy, my suggestion to you is if you are not sure than dont touch them, it could cost you your life or someones else. I know its a pain and sometimes a little expensive but when it comes to brakes leave it to the professional. Brake failure is not a nice thing and I know Ive been there. the only thing that stopped me going over a 50 foot plus drop was a couple of trees. Even though you have done other brakes before they are not all the same. I used to think the same as you but I can tell you I will never touch brakes again.

yeah that type, that's if its genuine and not a copy. there are a lot of look alikes out there even seen some in 18's. the genuines also came with a different offset for the rears of the sedans. had to use the fronts allround for the utes.

Sorry George but from memory the only genuine wheels that are capable of taking the brembos without fouling are Fpv Wheels.

Cant see why! FG XR6 and F6 all have the same brake system the exception being the caliper, the hose off the calipers and rotors. everything else is the same and Im sure if it interfered with the mechanics and electronics of the car the conversion would be deemed illegal and sellers and installers would not be allowed to modify the braking system by law. I did ask Matt from Race Brakes Sydney if there was a problem with the conversion and his reply was that the only problems they have had was customers getting the right wheels.

The difference in braking is unbelievable, it actually gives you more confidence driving the car. the down side is there is a bit of extra dust on the wheels. Price wise for less than 5k installed but worth every cent.

Hey everyone, just had 6 pot Brembos installed by RACE BRAKES SYDNEY Thanks Matthew, great job. great service

Hi, the part no for FG GT air cleaner box ( which is sold complete only ) is BG9600E retails for $244+ Snorkel BG9A624B retails for $52+ All air cleaner boxes sold as complete only BUT if you are only interested in the lower tray then buy the FG XR8 box ( diff being the outlet of the top is about 1in smaller in dia to that of the GT and only costs about $95+ COMPLETE PLUS $52+ FOR THE SNORKEL. MIND YOU IF YOU BUY THE GT BOX AND INTEND ON KEEPING THE TOP OF THE BOX THEN YOU WILL NEED TO MODIFY THE OUTLET HOSE. Cheers

Spare Parts and Service are 2 complete different departments in different buildings and different management so its hard to know what goes on in each department. normally there is one interpreter that looks after service for parts and usually a first or second year apprentice. I didnt see the vehicle and am just going by what was told to me, if true this would of been a first for them also. It was a engineer from the Ford Motor Company that came in to look at the motor vehicle and it was his laptop with the program that picked up the flash tune and it would of been the engineer that passed on the information to them about being able to detect the flash tunes. Besides no one in their right mind would take a heavily modified vehicle in expecting warranty on a detonated engine unless they took all the goodies off and put it back to stock including the tune trying to hide the fact, that's what I was going to do if required until I heard about what happened. Its a brand new Vehicle and my first in over 10 years due to myself driving a company car all this time,and at this stage cant come to terms with the possibility of loosing all that money. Anyway, from the responses to this post I have come to the conclusion that there is a lot of truth in what they told me and they were not just pulling my leg and sadly at this stage I will give the tune a miss. Thank you everyone, you have been of great help, cheers.

Hi everyone, great forum.Just a little about my self. I left a major Ford dealership in Sydney after working in the spare parts sales department for over 20 years about 6 months ago and as a going away present bought myself an FG XR6T.this is my first post even though I joined up about 5 weeks ago. So why Know? Because I was told something today and I am hoping that someone in this forum who is in the Ford servicing field can confirm this. I took my FG back in today for some warranty work, an engine sump leaking oil only after 7000 km, and apparently it will be the 3rd one that they have had in with the same problem, but that's not what concerns me. After telling a couple of my mates,who are the head mechanics there, that I was going to Flash Tune the car they warned me not to. Apparently The Ford engineers have now a program that can detect if a BFII or FG has ever been flashed tuned at any stage of its motoring life. They claim that they have had first hand experience with this and to talk to the poor bloke who brought his BFII XR6T in with a blown motor a couple of months ago wanting Ford warranty to cover the damage. Any warranty work costing Ford over a certain amount of dollars they send in an engineer to the dealership and he gives the go ahead to commence the work. Apparently the first thing this engineer did was to hook up the cars ECU to his computer and after a few minutes he came to the conclusion that the car had been Flashed tuned and detuned on a couple of different occasions and so declined the warranty claim and they have not heard from the bloke since even after threats of legal action from him. But it gets worst, they told me that Ford will be selling the software to the dealerships so that they can determine if trade ins on new cars have been Flashed tuned at any stage and if so it will devalue the car by thousands, Because if sold its the dealership that warrants the car and not Ford Motor Company, potentially saving them a fortune. They told me that a Flash Tuned car would loss all warranty on the whole motor, transmission, differential and drive shafts. Could someone in the know please tell me if its true or not, sadly if its true I will have to give up the thought of a Flash Tune. Thanks all