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I also have been having a massive dilema when it comes to manual vs atuo, and have done a lot of research of peoples opinions on the matter, and the bottom line is that the auto makes for better car, better performance, smoother, easier to drive, its basically better in everyway, except one which is FUN and pleasure to drive. So it depends how much you value that. I personally do a lot because its the main reason I want a car like this, so after being convinced of wanting an auto now I am set on a manual.

If you prefer the look of the BF then I would get one because surely appearance is arguably the most imporant thing for chosing a car, or at least equal? a nicer interior does not out weight that in a million years for me.

Guys, what do you think is a fair price for a BF F6 and Mk2? I have seen a few good ones on car sales, with low km's 60,000 etc for 32-35k, which seems a bit much. Would you pay 30k+ for one?

I dont get this thread. Selling a car you love for the sake of some tax dollars because your accountant told you? Silly reason to sell a car imo. Just buy something you love, drive it and enjoy it and stop being so obsessed with a buck, Geez.

I think the BF's look far better and tougher, than the FG, which looks like a sales mans car or something. Wouldnt buy an FG even if was cheaper.

So in other words if I want the 19 inch twists I have to get a mk2, unless I buy them seperate. Bit of a bummber because those are the wheels I want.:( thanks.

Did only the mk2s have the option of 19s? because I dont think ive seen a mk1 with them.

Hey folks, just wonder if someone could tell me the difference. Thanks.

Thanks

In terms of performance and drivability id say the T is a Sti killer. To get the performance out of them you have to launch hard, rev them hard and generally thrash them and even then they are barely faster than a stock T, slight advantage from a standing start but probably weaker in terms of pure acceleration. Tweak the T a little and its no contest. One thing that appeals to me is the novelty of a large family sedan being able to perform so hard as opposed to a sporty little buzz box.

So your phoon WAS faster than your 330kw GT but now its suddenly lost so much power than its no better than an XT? You make no sense and have zero credibility. Engines dont lose massive power like that unless they have SERIOUS problems. Should get it checked out mate

Whats the use of reving it that hard when you will just go slower? You have cubes and turbo, not a rotary so you shouldnt be concerned about hgh revs especially when its past its peak at that stage.

Do you understand that for a 240kw car to make 215kw at the wheels it would only be losing 10% through the drive train? The average is 25- 30% which is inline with the typhoons 200 KW at the wheels. Be realistic cro.You getting carried away with these dynos like most people. I dont understand all the fuss about these dyno results on stock cars anyway.We already KNOW what they make at the flywheel from the factory figures, and although it might be enjoyable to trumpet around your own personal Rwkw its all irrelavent in my book and the variations we see between stock vehicles are down to different dyno and testing conditions.

I like your wheels.The simmons FR's have always been my fav, although I would of thought they would be out of "fashion" by now since they have been around for so long. Their beauty is in their simplicity.

Motor magazine said that the new 6 speed allows you to reach 100kph in second gear, something that couldnt be done with the 5 speed.If this is true it would make a difference in the 0-100 dash. I find it hard to beleive you need 3 gears to get to 100kph though.

Arent the utes slower than the sedans?

4wds like the evos and wrs's do their damage off the line because of their obvious traction advantage.Take that away from them and they are not nearly as effective. Its no surprise that a stock xr6t can match them or even beat them through in gear acceleration. On a parting note.Just how sh*t do those evos look. lol Like little toys.

That looks tough. Very nice.

Sounds just like a VL turbo. I loved their sound though so that's a good thing:)

I may be new to the forum but im not new to the car scene and I dont need advice from an "expert" as you call him. Saying that,there is nothing wrong with dealing out advice but I just didnt like the way he dealt it out with all the labelling and exaggeration. His "advice" was not news to anyone with a little experience in the car scene anyway.

Friendly advice? More like giving us a lecture. I didnt know hes a cop but I guess that explains it.

You may gleefully choose to be shackled and dominated by our draconian road rules but drivers who refuse to dont need your garbage. Removing a muffler is a minor infraction but your going on as if it was worse than hitting Nos down a sidestreet. Muffler removal is not the domain of the "Dickhead" as you ignorantly state. Its a smart and proffitable move infact. Ive never driven a car that's had a complient exhaust system. For 5 years I drove a VL turbo with straight through exhaust,no mufflers only a cat converter. I hooned around with it as well and did I get caught? Yes I got caught ONCE. Thanks to freakishly bad luck on the way to work one morning, I ended up driving infront of a patrol car who happened to have an epa inspector with him and testing equipment. I got done 300 bucks but after I cleared the defect I took the muffler back off again. Why? Because I understand that the chances of getting defected are extremely slim and im willing to take that chance rather than drive under the exaggerated umbrella of fear and conformatism that you do. Simply put,the odds of getting busted for a missing muffler are extremley low. The reward is worth the risk. The XR6T does not attraction anyway,its not a hoon car and wont be for years so unless you just happen to give it a bootfull right infront of a cop you would be pretty immune to any hassles. You seem to be unaware that if a cop wants to defect you HE WILL regardless of what your driving. Ive seen cars done for the most trivial violations,that ive realized that if you want to be totally immune then you shouldnt bother backing out of your driveway. If you want to enjoy a performance car you have to take some calculated risks and gambles in my opinion. You just need to know how far to step and where.