ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 20y 3m 29d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 10/12/11 07:30 AM Posted 10/12/11 07:30 AM The ford LPI system is not a direct injection system it is a port injected system just like the aftermarket injection systems.LPG has 3 different forms of technologyThe old style which most people are familiar with is the mixer ring style systems, these are the ones that most people associate backfiring through the intake system.We then have vapour injection systems, these inject lpg into the intake port in vapour form. This style of system when compared to a mixer ring system is like comparing an efi car to a carburettor car. These systems can be quite good but it varies on the quality of the system and the ecu used to control it.The 3rd form is Liquid injection, it uses new LPG injectors to deliver fuel directly into the intake port, in liquid form. When lpg changes state from a liquid to a gas it expands to approx 270 times it size and it also attempts to freeze, ever seen a gas leak or release etc from a BBQ bottle? if you have you would have seen how the gas starts to freeze. The freezing is now happening in the inlet port close to the inlet valve, it reduces the intake charge temp which can help lead a denser air charge and better spark advance.Soon we will be able to get direct injection liquid systems, but they will only be able to be fitted to a car that has direct petrol injection fitted from the factory 1
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Legacy Donating Member 15,637 Member For: 19y 4m Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 10/12/11 07:47 AM Posted 10/12/11 07:47 AM So Mick with the liquid injection, in theory you could almost get away without an intercooler couldn't you?
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 20y 3m 29d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 10/12/11 08:01 AM Posted 10/12/11 08:01 AM in theory you possibly could, have not seen any body try that, but the main issue you will come accross is the IAT is measured in the inlet manifold and this would be before where the gas is injected, so the ecu would see these higher temps and pull spark out
bossmang FREAKY Legacy Donating Member 12,441 Member For: 16y 9m Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 10/12/11 08:18 AM Posted 10/12/11 08:18 AM (edited) wow this is complicated stuffI see this becoming more popular once the new lpi ford comes. and more guys opting for the after market systems to there current carsbe prepared mick for lots of questions hahah Edited 10/12/11 08:19 AM by fordfreak1
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Legacy Donating Member 15,637 Member For: 19y 4m Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 10/12/11 08:20 AM Posted 10/12/11 08:20 AM in theory you possibly could, have not seen any body try that, but the main issue you will come accross is the IAT is measured in the inlet manifold and this would be before where the gas is injected, so the ecu would see these higher temps and pull spark outBugga, no real way to get around that either. 1
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 20y 3m 29d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 10/12/11 08:28 AM Posted 10/12/11 08:28 AM be prepared mick for lots of questions hahahBel spends the best part of her day answering performance and LPG questions
bossmang FREAKY Legacy Donating Member 12,441 Member For: 16y 9m Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 10/12/11 08:43 AM Posted 10/12/11 08:43 AM really, how well does she know her stuff?
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 20y 3m 29d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 10/12/11 08:50 AM Posted 10/12/11 08:50 AM Well enough to answer most questions, Sometimes I have not even spoken to some of the customers that we have modded their cars until the car is all done
bossmang FREAKY Legacy Donating Member 12,441 Member For: 16y 9m Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 10/12/11 09:25 AM Posted 10/12/11 09:25 AM wow, that's awesome.go bel
TRA1NR Pitlane Member Legacy Donating Member 2,886 Member For: 19y 4m 24d Gender: Male Location: Pakenham, Victoria Posted 10/12/11 09:35 AM Posted 10/12/11 09:35 AM (edited) I didn't speak to Mick until the day I dropped my car off, all of my dealings up until that point were with Belinda, she definitely knows what she is talking about! Edited 10/12/11 09:36 AM by TRA1NR
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