Everyone goes on about how awesome the ZF is...

I prefer the 4sp to drive with... More response, easier wheelspin and you can actually feel it shift...

I know the ZF is GREAT... And it can handle more power etc...But how many people are getting quick times with them...?

I know I am probably gonna get slammed... But it's just my two cents...

always loved my 4spd they seemed very well matched to the power outputs of the I6t , Be great if they could build them a little stronger

yeah, I felt that way when I was used to driving the 4-speeds at the factory I hated the 6-speeds. However after getting used to the massive range of gears I couldn't fall in love with the 4 speed again.

I do think even the N/A six was very well suited with its lazy torque to the 4 speeds. but fuel efficiency is pretty important I guess and the six is a step up, plus no more first gear whine like a taxi..

Worm, have you ever driven a modified turbo with the ZF?

yeah 380rwkw... whistler6's...

its almost too smooth!!! LOL

yeh I guess it comes down to getting use to the gearbox itself and the power of the car.

are we comparing stock zf boxs to stock 4sp's? or worked 4sp's with stall vs stock zf's? apples and oranges?

Are there many zf strengthened with histalls?

broad topic, but since im more of a hard shifter, I prefer the 4sp which just bangs gears away

the more gears you have to change the more chance you have of stuffing up that .1sec down the strip ;p

Big call Wormy, I loved my BTR so much i pulled it out and fitted a T56, each to there own i spose tho.

T56 is fun... But frusterating when guys with heaps less power pull away from you on shifts during a cruise...

Also T56 has the ability to make your eyes feel like they are gonna go through the back of your head with big amounts of boost!!!

The ZF is nice for an old man in a BMW... But I prefer something... I dunno... A bit beefier... Where you can feel shifts and know what gear you are in...

I think the BTR is a better manual auto... If you know what I mean!!! LOL

You have to remember that your shift pattern, shift pressure and kickdown have been altered in the tune, but glad your happy with what has been done