Free Spinning Turbo Fan

[RHR]

Has he shown you the internals of the motor. Just doesnt sound right to me

[seduced]

You are getting ripped off.

There would have been nothing wrong with your oil pump. Its the turbo inline filter that's blocked. He can boost oil pressure all he wants but it wont work and he will destroy another turbo. BUY AN ETM OIL FEED LINE and fit that yourself, takes less than an hour.

Sounds like this bloke wants to rebuild you whole engine to make some cash... if he continues to ignore the turbo oil filter, you will be in the same place in a couple of days...DEAD turbo.

[ZAP]

It sounds like he is trying to milk you.

Fit the ETM oil line and new turbo and I bet it is all fine.

Did you give him permission to pull the sump off ?

I would ask that it all be put together and do what I have said above.

Mechanics are masters of BS'ing a client into spending a heap of money where it is not needed. This is especially the case with an exotic aussie ford.

You have done the right thing by asking us for the best advice, all I suggest you do it use our advice to save you from a big bill.

Firstly I doubt the shaft in the turbo has snapped, more likely the oil starvation has stuffed the bearings, and IF the impellers on the hot side have failed and gotten into the motor, you would have heard a lot more than a scraping sound. The motor would be much noisier as the pistons would be damaged.

As for the scored bearings, how often did you change your oil ?

What filter were you using ?

What oil ?

I would be very suprised if the oil pump was gone as it would be a rare failure, same with the bearings.

This mechanic, may talk the talk, but I do not think he is being honest with you.

[PHANTMXR6]

ZAP, this doesn't really make sense "and IF the impellers on the hot side have failed and gotten into the motor, you would have heard a lot more than a scraping sound. The motor would be much noisier as the pistons would be damaged."

The hot side of the turbo has a turbine wheel and it wouldn't damage the pistons as this side of the turbo is on the other side of the exhaust valves.

How can anything get back to the pistons from that side?

If it was from the compressor side, then yes maybe.

[ZAP]

true, I take your point. I should have reread the post before submitting

I guess I was trying to say that if the shaft had broken there would be more noticable damage and noise. Generally a shaft breaking at high speed causes more visable damage and should not allow the turbo impellers to spin freely.

[Paulie2256]

Did he mention how much its all going to cost? if its too late then just throw some rods and pistons in while you are at it.

Take it to the uk and tell the boys at top gear that they are testing the wrong "aussie" car.

Yes jeremy I swear its stock.

I wouldn't mind seeing the look on jezzas face when he plants it in a 450kw falcon.

Only problem is. Who will tune it?

[austcro]

5./ the bearings are a little worn and scored, all this has happened because you are using oil and filters that are no use on this car, this is a little more serious than you may possibly understand, but I will try to explain as best as I can

I would really like to know how he achieved this. Did he remove some of the main and big end caps to inspect the bearings? How does he know that the bearings are worn? What criterion did he evaluate this against?

Something is not right, he is mixing fact with fiction which in my experience is the most dangerous kind of con artist. Don't let him undo another nut or bolt, seriously.

Also, as previously said get the oil supply line to the turbo replaced and the inline turbo oil supply filter removed as soon as practically possible. My BF XR6 turbo has 100,000km on it, when I removed the screen I inspected it very closely and it was almost blocked. Check this thread for more details: http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=32461

And I wouldn't be throwing anything at the engine. Take it somewhere else and get some tests done on it; Any decent mechanic should know how to do this work. If the oil pump was rooted and the bearings are as worn as he reckons they are you'll be seeing a drop in compression, and oil pressure.

Don't have the specifications for this at hand, maybe someone else here has access to the manual. You can also get the manual on CD off ebay for $5-$10 or so..

Good luck..

[ZAP]

Just remember guys, this car is "exotic" as he is Cyprus, that is a island off the coast of Syria, as in the MIDDLE EAST/EUROPE.

Finding experienced people will be difficult, if not impossible as there would not be many turbo i6 on the island.

[Caghan]

you are exactly right guys that's why I must trust this guy. I cannot just assume he is trying to do me over and take the car because he IS the only one in the island who seems to know what hes doing. so when he tells me he had to rebuild the oil pump, altho it may sound like its far fetched and not likely to happen. what if it really DID happen? that's why I must be so trusting. I asked him for the current oil pressure output to compare it to the normal one. I will post his answer here to see the comparison. anyone care to give me some pointers to see if he is screwing me around? thanks

[RHR]

Has he shown you the damaged bits. Id be asking to see them if I were you