Mondie Firm Member Legacy Donating Member 2,924 Member For: 23y 10m 26d Location: Adelaide Hills Posted 15/01/03 05:00 AM Posted 15/01/03 05:00 AM As l was admiring a very classy BA Fairmont Ghia today, l couldnt help wondering how a Ghia with the XR6T motor would be awesome. For me, that would be the best of both worlds. B) l think its a cert, whether its one or two years down the track, l think it will happen.So when do you all reckon Ford are gonna do it? Would you buy one?
Guest DZ. Guests Posted 15/01/03 05:13 AM Posted 15/01/03 05:13 AM I'd like to see the turbo motor exclusive to the XRs and FPVs. I wouldn't mind seeing a more luxurious spec XR though.
Guest hany Guests Posted 15/01/03 05:13 AM Posted 15/01/03 05:13 AM I doubt it but its nice to dream aye if they did though it would be heapes of $$$$ id say something like $90 000 or somethingI would buy it if I had the money im only 12 so I dont think ill save that much money thoughgood concept though hany
F6 RAPID Formerly Turbo6 Legacy Donating Member 2,332 Member For: 23y 8m 19d Location: North Brisbane Posted 15/01/03 06:02 AM Posted 15/01/03 06:02 AM I would buy it if I had the money im only 12 so I dont think ill save that much money thoughhanyThis would explain why you made a previous post about turbo lag hany and showed you had absolutely no idea what you were talking about. After all, you are only 12. It makes much more sense now.
physh Member 248 Member For: 23y 11m 16d Location: Canberra Posted 15/01/03 06:19 AM Posted 15/01/03 06:19 AM hey - we were all 12 once...Remember the way in which women suddenly became interesting...The way which all of a sudden you had to have a mountain bike not a BMX... (to impress the girls)The way you realised that school might actually have something useful about it (the girls)ahhh... reminiscing... In any case, perhaps if FPV make something along the lines of the TL50, ie a limo with BIG brass ones... *grin*Perhaps the turbo could be on that. Or a supercharged/stroked 5.4 DOHC... People, wipe the drool off!!!
Guest MrSparkle Guests Posted 15/01/03 06:32 AM Posted 15/01/03 06:32 AM Can't see it happening! There are a few issues involved with doing this, that I don't think can be overcome easily..* Exclusivity of the Turbo model - Ford and FPV have put a lot of work into getting the XR6T to where it is in the marketplace, and in the public eye. * Build schedule (delays are bad enough on the XR6T, let alone a fleet of Ghias waiting around at FPV factory!)* R&D costs - not just a matter of wacking XR6T spec drivetrain in.. they would have to develop new suspension, revise the brakes, and modify the auto box software* Model lineup continuity against Expensive Daewoo competitors - there is no direct competitor for a turbo Ghia, the supercharged Calais is more a competitor to the n/a GhiaJust a few reasons why I think Ford won't go this route.. and as nice as it would be to get the luxury and looks of the Ghia with the turbo underbonnet, if I was gonna go the "luxo-sleeper" path, I'd be inclined to get a V8 Ghia and look at supercharging.
Mondie Firm Member Legacy Donating Member 2,924 Member For: 23y 10m 26d Location: Adelaide Hills Posted 15/01/03 09:28 AM Author Posted 15/01/03 09:28 AM l reckon the 'trickle down' effect may see it happen in a few years.It would really allow Ford to compete with the Europeans; it would be hard to ignore for a $60k buyer. What could you compare it to?Mitsubishi brought out the VRX and eventually that motor found its way into the Verada. Tickford sixes have been going into the ghia for a few years now, l know not as big of an engineering task as putting the turbo in the Ghia but shows a willingness to do this kind of thing.
Guest Slime124 Guests Posted 15/01/03 10:51 AM Posted 15/01/03 10:51 AM I have been looking at buying a Fairmont Ghia and actually asked one of the sales guys when they were going to release the turbo version - he just went quiet and got very sheepish so I expect they will be doing it before long.I think they will put the turbo in the Ghia for a couple of reasons ;1. You can feel the extra weight of the V8 in the Ghia, it makes plenty of power but it does make the car feel and ride differently - the weight difference of the turbo over n/a six wouldn't (IMHO) make any difference so they could leave suspension etc alone2. The Ghia end of the spectrum is probably their most profitable part of Ford's Falcon sale, (12k more for than a Futura for a Fairmont Ghia for leather, a set of wheels, slightly modded suspension and a few small extras...) so they will do all they can to shift as many as possible.3. A lot of Ghias are company cars - some companies/fleet companies won't allow a V8 but will allow a turbo or supercharged 6 (thus the s/c Calais a few years ago)Slime
CJF077 The Noble Leader Administrator 4,792 Member For: 23y 11m 15d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Australia Posted 15/01/03 11:23 AM Posted 15/01/03 11:23 AM Somehow i have a feeling it just wont happen..
Guest DZ. Guests Posted 15/01/03 10:18 PM Posted 15/01/03 10:18 PM I have been looking at buying a Fairmont Ghia and actually asked one of the sales guys when they were going to release the turbo version - he just went quiet and got very sheepish so I expect they will be doing it before long. No offence to car sales people but 90% of the ones that I've ever talked to haven't got a clue of what's going on in their product line up.
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