Good! We don't need some yank V6 in our falcons. The Ford inline 6T is universally known as one of the best performance 6s in the world, it makes no sense to change it

while the Falcon is still produced in Aus.

It's output is pretty poor for it's capacity though. If Ford added direct injection and really wanted to I bet they could make an easy 250kW and 420+Nm. Holden's 3.6 with DI, will be producing 227kW and 370Nm and the 3.0 205kW.

Ford Aus is still going to build the I6 - we announced some time ago that there would not be a V6 falcon.

I thought this was widespread news? The turbo 4 will be an option, as well as the normal petrol inline six, the turbo inline six, the new liquid phase LPG inline 6, and the V8s.

I did hear that, but I didnt think it was indefinite. With the I6 almost at the end of its development, I heard that 2012 or so would finally see it finished, replaced by the v6. In this global market, it would make sense to reduce the amount of engine variants to minimise global costs. Why build one engine for just one market which is relatively small in comparison? If we exported the I6 to power overseas models down the track, we could be assured of its longevity, but as world governments push the green thumb in the gut of the industry, engines such as this either require significant development to reduce fuel consumption (alot) while increasing power to stick with the competition, or they should be retired for something that has more room for development and potential.

We are talking globally here. A global engine series for a global company.

One things for sure, I will be buying the last of the i6 turbos when its axed.

Ford Aus is still going to build the I6 - we announced some time ago that there would not be a V6 falcon.

I thought this was widespread news? The turbo 4 will be an option, as well as the normal petrol inline six, the turbo inline six, the new liquid phase LPG inline 6, and the V8s.

I hope this is true cos it's a great donk! But what about emission compliance? I thought it was in the same boat as the boss!

We haven't just announced spending all these millions on engine upgrades just to turf the friggin things.

Its far cheaper to continue with the I6 than to pay for import engines and engineering to fit them in the FG.

Plus Burela started in the casting plant - and everyone at Ford aus loves the things!

I would have thought Ford Aust would do similar testing on the Inline Turbo 6 motor.

Benny

Yes they do. All Ford engines have to pass the same tests. FoA have been doing the "Cologne" test of max rpm for days on end since the early 90's I think.

And the I6 still has plenty of development left in it for the future, and emmisions compliance won't be a problem. Its regarded by the powertrain engineers as superior to the V6 which apparently isn't much chop. Despite not being all alloy the I6 is actually more advanced than the V6 which doesn't even have any form of cam phasing on the exhaust cam let alone dual independant VCT like the I6 has. Doesn't have a variable length inlet manifold either. Its only advantage is the alloy block and direct injection on some versions.

The scary thing for the V6 Falcon was that there was not going to be a turbo version, FoA could not get supplies of the EcoBoost engine and it would have spelt the end for the XR6 Turbo and F6. Thank god the decision was reversed.

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Fakin aye!

You'd be hard-pushed to find a better marriage over the 4.0lt I6 and a turbo. With further enhancements it's only going to get better

Would I be right to assume that if the I6 is staying, that it will have to move to an alloy block to reduce warm up time and therefore improve emmissions? An all alloy, direct injection turbo would be the ducks guts!

That does sound good...otherwise if it gets the axe, I agree that I'll be hunting for the last car released with the I6 as a keepsake! I hope it doesn't get cut soon since I will be pretty broke after buying another car hahaha...

Love the 6.

Would I be right to assume that if the I6 is staying, that it will have to move to an alloy block to reduce warm up time and therefore improve emmissions? An all alloy, direct injection turbo would be the ducks guts!

Nope, doesn't need it. Cast iron blocks are not a hindrance to Euro 5, most Euro 5 compliant diesels use cast iron blocks. Its all about getting the cats as close to the head as possible. The quicker the cats warm the quicker they work to reduce emmisions.

Also the cats used in the 9.9 L per 100 6 speed auto XT's are apparently a huge improvement over the ones they replaced.