qik1 Silver Donating Members 2,720 Member For: 17y 1m 19d Gender: Male Location: Loitering in SEQ Posted 02/09/08 11:43 AM Share Posted 02/09/08 11:43 AM on the weekend I went down the 1/4 for the first time since the T was modified & had a minor/major issue. I dont have a surge tank so I ran it with a full tank as a precaution but it had major fuel surge. I have a highflow pump but still we had an issue. im getting a process west surge tank fitted next wednesday but still it shoulnt of happened with a full tank I would of thought. my question is has anyone else had this problem as well & did you fit a surge tank & did it correct it???thanks john.nice piece of gear the process west tank. cant wait to get a look at it. any comments on the performance of the tank would be handy because I left it up to my tuner to what product was goin to be fitted. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49308-fuel-surge-with-a-full-tank/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETM Member 1,194 Member For: 18y 3m 17d Gender: Male Location: syd south Posted 02/09/08 11:54 AM Share Posted 02/09/08 11:54 AM You will not have any problems with fuel surge once you fit the process west surgetank.As for the problem last week it cant surge if the tank is full, I am inclined to thing that your injectors were using the fuel faster than your fuel pump could pump it resulting in loss of fuel pressure. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49308-fuel-surge-with-a-full-tank/#findComment-727198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qik1 Silver Donating Members 2,720 Member For: 17y 1m 19d Gender: Male Location: Loitering in SEQ Posted 02/09/08 12:22 PM Author Share Posted 02/09/08 12:22 PM (edited) fitting the tank should fix this you think??? its gonna be checked over when the tank gets fitted but I cant get it to replicate the prob on the street which is a minor technicality. Edited 02/09/08 12:23 PM by JET066 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49308-fuel-surge-with-a-full-tank/#findComment-727214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETM Member 1,194 Member For: 18y 3m 17d Gender: Male Location: syd south Posted 02/09/08 12:41 PM Share Posted 02/09/08 12:41 PM fitting the tank should fix this you think??? its gonna be checked over when the tank gets fitted but I cant get it to replicate the prob on the street which is a minor technicality.Well if the pump is not up to the task then the surgetank wont fix the problem, what kind of fuel pump is it? Kev fits an 044 pump to his kits and you will not have a problem using an 044 pump.Also everything is amplified at the track so it will bring out your problems every time. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49308-fuel-surge-with-a-full-tank/#findComment-727221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qik1 Silver Donating Members 2,720 Member For: 17y 1m 19d Gender: Male Location: Loitering in SEQ Posted 02/09/08 12:53 PM Author Share Posted 02/09/08 12:53 PM I cant get a good look at it but it is a bosch pump & is fairly sizable. I suppose all we can do is check over the obvious & fit the tank & I'll know soon enough when I go down there. main thing im chasing has anybody had the same prob & what fixed the problem for them. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49308-fuel-surge-with-a-full-tank/#findComment-727231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanra Into the laaaake Member 1,532 Member For: 18y 16d Gender: Male Location: Nrth Qld Posted 02/09/08 09:00 PM Share Posted 02/09/08 09:00 PM (edited) Well if the pump is not up to the task then the surgetank wont fix the problem, what kind of fuel pump is it? Kev fits an 044 pump to his kits and you will not have a problem using an 044 pump.Also everything is amplified at the track so it will bring out your problems every time.ETM, Keep in mind the stock in-tank pump was still in place. And the Bosch high pressure pump was mounted in the engine bay trying to pull fuel from the rear through a stock pump that was morel then likely running at its limits. If the first part of the line is unable to flow the volume/pressure it would then become a restriction. Edited 02/09/08 09:01 PM by hanra Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49308-fuel-surge-with-a-full-tank/#findComment-727294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETM Member 1,194 Member For: 18y 3m 17d Gender: Male Location: syd south Posted 02/09/08 11:58 PM Share Posted 02/09/08 11:58 PM Yeah well in that case I would say that the pressure in the line from the tank to the engine bay is dropping too low. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49308-fuel-surge-with-a-full-tank/#findComment-727344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 10m 11d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 03/09/08 04:04 AM Share Posted 03/09/08 04:04 AM I had an inline Bosch from an APS kit that had done around 80000ks fail that caused the very symptoms Jet66 described.The AFRs were leaning way out underload when checked on the Dyno. Lucky I didn't stand on it once the surging started . Worth checking out the pump to eliminate that first.I have since fitted the Process West surge tank, all good Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49308-fuel-surge-with-a-full-tank/#findComment-727424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcl Toughest BA Turbo Lifetime Members 3,408 Member For: 22y 6m 6d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 03/09/08 04:59 AM Share Posted 03/09/08 04:59 AM Well if the pump is not up to the task then the surgetank wont fix the problem, what kind of fuel pump is it? Kev fits an 044 pump to his kits and you will not have a problem using an 044 pump.Also everything is amplified at the track so it will bring out your problems every time.At the track I find I get fuel surge with less than 80dte, and have replicated it on a number of occasions.With 1/3 tank dte 150 to 200, I don't have a problem, so that's what I go to the track with.I mentioned it to Kev, not sure why it happens.Brian Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49308-fuel-surge-with-a-full-tank/#findComment-727448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qik1 Silver Donating Members 2,720 Member For: 17y 1m 19d Gender: Male Location: Loitering in SEQ Posted 03/09/08 07:20 AM Author Share Posted 03/09/08 07:20 AM its one of things im probabaly not gonna know if its fixed or not til I take it back down the track. all the obvious things can be checked eg fittings, fuel pressure. only way to even get close is to put it on the dyno & make sure the afr's are ok (enough fuels getting there). if all is ok maybe with the extra stress & traction im getting being on the track is to much for the stock tank pump as brad (hanra) stated abit earlier. otherwise if its something else it should in theory rear its ugly head on the dyno or on the street, but I gave it a quick blast last night with 40klm left & it didnt miss a beat so it could be a trial & error thing. also the pump I have on there now is only about 7000klm old so hopefully its ok otherwise im sure the tuner will look after me on that one. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49308-fuel-surge-with-a-full-tank/#findComment-727502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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