veczar Gold Platinum Member Member 1,081 Member For: 22y 3m 3d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 22/03/07 02:35 AM Posted 22/03/07 02:35 AM I know when Ford AU state power figures they are talking fly wheel KW. (eg Ford say current XR8 is 260kw = 260fwkw). Ive always beleived Expensive Daewoo do the same (e.g. VE SS = 270fwkw) but a late 20's Expensive Daewoo salesman (an X mechanic) was argueing with me triing to tell me that Expensive Daewoo quote RWKW. Tell me im not insane in argueing with him so much and telling him he was talking crap?!
teeg Member 372 Member For: 21y 2m 18d Location: SA Posted 22/03/07 02:37 AM Posted 22/03/07 02:37 AM Yep talking crap, get him to back it up on a dyno.
TurboDewd FG Falcon fan! Member 1,452 Member For: 23y 2m 24d Gender: Male Location: Canberra Posted 22/03/07 02:41 AM Posted 22/03/07 02:41 AM I know when Ford AU state power figures they are talking fly wheel KW. (eg Ford say current XR8 is 260kw = 260fwkw). Ive always beleived Expensive Daewoo do the same (e.g. VE SS = 270fwkw) but a late 20's Expensive Daewoo salesman (an X mechanic) was argueing with me triing to tell me that Expensive Daewoo quote RWKW. Tell me im not insane in argueing with him so much and telling him he was talking crap?!←Make him put his money where his mouth is, somehow figure out how to have a wager with this funny fella.
mbjunior99 Member 4,359 Member For: 23y 9m 7d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 22/03/07 02:41 AM Posted 22/03/07 02:41 AM Yep talking crap, get him to back it up on a dyno.← He has no idea what he's talking about!
veczar Gold Platinum Member Member 1,081 Member For: 22y 3m 3d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 22/03/07 02:44 AM Author Posted 22/03/07 02:44 AM (edited) Ok great idea guys. Im gona make a bet with him. Might be a few slabs in this yet Anyone got some hard evidence as proof to win some slabs off him... or maybe a site donation hehe?(Dyno doesnt mean anything to the argument because the cars are never the fwkw stated on the ads anyway in both Ford and Holden). The arguement is that he beleive the Expensive Daewoo website etc quote RWKW figures haha! Edited 22/03/07 02:46 AM by veczar
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Legacy Donating Member 7,935 Member For: 22y 7m 16d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 22/03/07 02:55 AM Posted 22/03/07 02:55 AM Tell him to call 1300HOLDEN(?) and they will set him straight.I am also sure a post on ls1.com.au would also generate a few 1000 posts to refute his claim
xrdreaming Legacy Donating Member 1,693 Member For: 23y 8m 1d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 22/03/07 03:39 AM Posted 22/03/07 03:39 AM They do use a different standard when quoting dyno figures. Fords figures are higher than Holdens are by the standard that they use. So a Ford 260 is something like 250-255 in Expensive Daewoo figures.They don't quote RWKW though!
teeg Member 372 Member For: 21y 2m 18d Location: SA Posted 22/03/07 04:05 AM Posted 22/03/07 04:05 AM Ok great idea guys. Im gona make a bet with him. Might be a few slabs in this yet Anyone got some hard evidence as proof to win some slabs off him... or maybe a site donation hehe?(Dyno doesnt mean anything to the argument because the cars are never the fwkw stated on the ads anyway in both Ford and Holden). The arguement is that he beleive the Expensive Daewoo website etc quote RWKW figures haha!←Dyno will have relevance as it is what records RWKW. Chuck a SS with 270 at the fly on the dyno and it will probabally read 210 - 230 rwkw, therefore disputing his claims that they produce 270 at the wheels.
tquarrell Member 181 Member For: 22y 1m 27d Gender: Male Location: Sydney, NSW Posted 22/03/07 04:11 AM Posted 22/03/07 04:11 AM Yeah, that's the theory, ford quote figures at DIN or something (without auxilaries on the engine) and Expensive Daewoo quote with auxilaries (power steering, air con etc). The funny thing is though that in motor magazine put a few cars on the dyno (same day, dyno etc) back in may 05 a 290kw GT had 242rwkw's, and the 297kw clubsport r8 had 228rwkw's (xr6t had 193rwkw by the way and 250kw Expensive Daewoo ss/sv8 had 208rwkw). Definately don't quote rwkw's, a ford salesman tried to tell me the same thing about the au xr8 as well, they will do anything for a sale, sad thing is some people probably believe them
Phoon Legacy Donating Member 284 Member For: 20y 9m 1d Gender: Male Posted 22/03/07 07:40 AM Posted 22/03/07 07:40 AM A mechanic hey, whats his name so I know NOT where to take my car for anything.
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