XR06T Legacy Donating Member 4,146 Member For: 21y 3m 1d Gender: Male Posted 28/09/06 01:02 AM Posted 28/09/06 01:02 AM Well maybe because I have big (wide) feet I use the left side of my right foot to brake and the right side to blip the go pedal as necessary. So it's not really using either the heel or the toe.←that's the way to do it..
Bain Member 827 Member For: 21y 6m 26d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 28/09/06 03:37 AM Posted 28/09/06 03:37 AM (edited) Compared to previous cars ive driven.The BA sucks for heel toeing because of the staggered pedals. You could modify your pedals...BMW got it right Edited 28/09/06 03:38 AM by Bain
jeromie0 Member 49 Member For: 20y 1m 18d Posted 28/09/06 01:20 PM Author Posted 28/09/06 01:20 PM Compared to previous cars ive driven.The BA sucks for heel toeing because of the staggered pedals. You could modify your pedals...BMW got it right ←Well I am glad that a few people have had the same problem I have had! I can still heel toe, but it is more heel and middle of foot than the toe. I was wondering as the reviews in motor have raved about the pedals being well spaced - but I disagreed.
Bain Member 827 Member For: 21y 6m 26d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 28/09/06 11:51 PM Posted 28/09/06 11:51 PM Well I am glad that a few people have had the same problem I have had! I can still heel toe, but it is more heel and middle of foot than the toe. I was wondering as the reviews in motor have raved about the pedals being well spaced - but I disagreed.←Yeah, it can still be done.But im not a fat bastard with wide feet, so I dont really bother in this car. If I was doing track days and stuff, id probably get my pedals modified.But as it is, I only do hill runs with mates. No real need or urgency for heel/toeing..
RAP1D Member Legacy Donating Member 3,739 Member For: 20y 4m 4d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 29/09/06 08:44 AM Posted 29/09/06 08:44 AM I do plenty of track days and never find the need to heel/toe, the car has enough pull that you dont need to bring up the revs during changes... the pedals are crap for it anyway as you guys have pointed out
F6 UTE - Track Bound EVO III - Member 3,367 Member For: 21y 9m 8d Gender: Male Location: Strapped in and holding on Posted 29/09/06 09:02 AM Posted 29/09/06 09:02 AM I do plenty of track days and never find the need to heel/toe, the car has enough pull that you dont need to bring up the revs during changes... the pedals are crap for it anyway as you guys have pointed out←I agree. I only blip the throttle on downshifts.
Fat-Tony Legacy Donating Member 5,364 Member For: 20y 6m 3d Posted 29/09/06 09:17 AM Posted 29/09/06 09:17 AM I do plenty of track days and never find the need to heel/toe, the car has enough pull that you dont need to bring up the revs during changes... the pedals are crap for it anyway as you guys have pointed out←I agree. I only blip the throttle on downshifts.←same here but yeh I dont think the barge of a car makes a good track weapon to begin with in anycase.
Adrian6T T.P.I.S. Legacy Donating Member 2,578 Member For: 21y 9m 21d Gender: Male Location: SoR, WA Posted 29/09/06 09:26 AM Posted 29/09/06 09:26 AM I dont understand why people would want to heel toe a car that is clearly not designed for it.First the clutch is not made to cope with those sort of forces which is why rally cars have a specially made clutch to do down shifts with.Second it is horrible for your gearbox.Most of us have good brakes (well we should) so use them and then pick the right gear at the end of either the corner or whatever and shoot off again.my 2c.Adrian
Turbo6man Legacy Donating Member 4,084 Member For: 23y 11m 13d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 29/09/06 09:53 AM Posted 29/09/06 09:53 AM I dont understand why people would want to heel toe a car that is clearly not designed for it.First the clutch is not made to cope with those sort of forces which is why rally cars have a specially made clutch to do down shifts with.Second it is horrible for your gearbox.Most of us have good brakes (well we should) so use them and then pick the right gear at the end of either the corner or whatever and shoot off again.my 2c.Adrian ←Your comment has me guessing - I really don't think you have a clue what "heel and toe" is.Firstly, what does it do to the clutch? Secondly what effect does it have on the gearbox? Fact is that the very essence of heel toe downshifts is to ease pressure on the clutch. If done correctly it also takes pressure off the syncros because matching engine revs to vehicle speed lightens the load on the syncros because it is speed matching that the syncros would have to do otherwise. Same thing for the clutch.The driving technique that you suggest, ie. use your brakes to slow down, then turn corner, then select a gear, then drive on, is quite franky downright poor at best and dangerous at worst. If that is how you drive please don't ever invite me as a passenger in your car. Especially on a race track!
Fat-Tony Legacy Donating Member 5,364 Member For: 20y 6m 3d Posted 29/09/06 09:57 AM Posted 29/09/06 09:57 AM Downshifting is down right uncomfortable and slow when you dont bring up the revs to componsate for gearing.
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