Hahah hah they look like sh*t I hate them. The interiors are crap they are sh*it crap crap crap. Same crap as before yuk yuk I hate Holden.

I mean there so sh*t Holdens are for idiots!

Yep that's right idiots

Oh no you cant say that!  Ha I just did.

CRAP!

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Somebody forgot to take their ADD medicine...

I actually like the VE... looks tough and very nice interior...

Big Improvement over the VY-VZ as far as looks go. I have to admit, I like it as well. Very, very nice indeed. Be interested in taking one for a spin just for curiosity. Only thing about the interior (SS) I don't like is the 2 tone dash (rest is fine). The Calais interior looks very nice.

Eww, feel so unclean saying this, LMAO.

Not too bad. Very Euro and I think they look a bit high but they might steal some early sales away. I think the old engines and 200+kg will see Ford win in the long run...

Lumpy

Big Improvement over the VY-VZ as far as looks go.  I have to admit, I like it as well.  Very, very  nice indeed.  Be interested in taking one for a spin just for curiosity.  Only thing about the interior (SS) I don't like is the 2 tone dash (rest is fine). 

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Agreed, will be interesting to see the power output of the HSV's and just how far they will go over the 300 KW mark they will go to take care of the extra weight.Hopefully not so much as to get that cranker Scruby and cronies all fired up.

I tip ~ the 330kw mark for the GTS , with more in reserve to combat the 2008 Falcon At least the Phoons will be able to be easily tweaked at the factory to keep the bastards honest

Unless the GT gets a blower son , the other mob are going to snare more V8 sales

Unless the GT gets a blower son , the other mob are going to snare more V8 sales

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Not really Jules it only cost $2k to get 330 klw out of a GT and a HSV will NEVER be a GT

Will be intersting to see how the extra weight will effect the HSV's if they dont up the klw's

At the end of the day I would'nt p1ss on a Expensive Daewoo anyway

.... it only cost $2k to get 330 klw out of a GT...

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Hey DBOSS, what would you recommend for my brothers BF GT?? He wants to keep things relatively straight forward, and is interested in talking to HP-F.

(apologies for the OT post)

Unless the GT gets a blower son , the other mob are going to snare more V8 sales :banghead:

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Not really Jules it only cost $2k to get 330 klw out of a GT and a HSV will NEVER be a GT

Will be intersting to see how the extra weight will effect the HSV's if they dont up the klw's

At the end of the day I would'nt p1ss on a Expensive Daewoo anyway

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No offence buddy but the over weight, over priced GT is the slowest "high performance" Ford in the current stable... a cheaper, more agile stock, XR6T beats it everytime.

Heck an older VX-VY SS will beat it let alone an HSV. I think you need to get over your complex and buy a real FPV performer... a phoon!

Edited July 20, 200620 yr by BOV

its overall refinement you pay for. I just think the new ve looks very euro and to much like a ba, interior and steering wheel look akward, but it has a very impressive equipment list

Doesnt look to bad from the front, not keen on the interior, but I want to vomit every time I look at those tail lights. What were they thinking?

here's all that matters......

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At $1.40 or so per liter? You can keep it.

I'm rather happy with the 15.1/100 I average with my harsh driving style thank you very much.

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The major concern is $8 per litre for the oil