Workplace Bargaining Agreements

[jetute]

dont do it lumpy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SHOCK]

Spoken by someone who owns there own business. Did ya slip ya mate jonny another$50.

Quite the opposite mate, worked in a factory all my life, until the last 3 years Ive been keeping my hands clean in management in a national company.

[Lumpen]

Last time I checked it was the lowest unemployment level for quite some time...workers have the power in my game.

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If you are looking for work, you are not counted on the unemployment figures.

If you WANT work, you are not counted on the unemployment figures.

If you work one hour a week, you are not counted on the unemployment figures.

If you are disabled or a pensioner (of any form), you are not counted on the unemployment figures.

If you pay any attention to any government figure, you are not a smart person.

Brendan

[Falchoon]

4.3% First Year

4.0% Second Year

4.0% Third Year

.....and here's the even better bit....

Time and a half for the first three hours on Saturday, Double for the next two hours then it reverts back to time and a half for the next three hours.

Sunday and Public Holidays time and a half ALL day...

Nothing signed off yet still in 'negotiation' 

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AFAIK there are no yearly increments at my work.

There is talk of time and a half only, no double time regardless of how many hours or what day you work but I'm not sure when it's due to take effect.

[SHOCK]

Maybe talk to some of your mates that aren`t as fortunate as yourself or maybe they are all highly educated like yourself.

Mate to tell the truth, I did year 12 in an country area school with 230 kids. Then moved to Adelaide as a green eyed 16 year old and become a Fitter and Turner. No uni education here mate, just hard work on the shop floor and not walking into a engineering office with a bit of paper at 23-24 thinking you know it all....sorry Lawsy...

[SHOCK]

I suppose if you work for someone then your pay might well reflect that.

Don’t know what complaining will do apart from making you even angrier!!!

Simply work for yourself and then do as you like.

Personally I don’t think anyone should be on wages and as such I think everyone should be on contract and payed for what they produce not some award rate!!!!

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U the man F6

[Gary Crawley]

Last time I checked it was the lowest unemployment level for quite some time...workers have the power in my game.

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If you are looking for work, you are not counted on the unemployment figures.

If you WANT work, you are not counted on the unemployment figures.

If you work one hour a week, you are not counted on the unemployment figures.

If you are disabled or a pensioner (of any form), you are not counted on the unemployment figures.

If you pay any attention to any government figure, you are not a smart person.

Brendan

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Hi all

Hey Brendan I know you have been in business and you put up with the same bull sh*t that controls us all.

I have been with the same company for 18 years and as people have said you are in charge of your own destiny, so I think it's time to stop my whinging about pay and conditions and as they say "have a go"

I,m considering buying a business on the North Coast and at least then I can give myself a hard time.

Little John'y will probably then chase me around with the tax man.

Regards

Gary

[ZAP]

While I may have a biased view on this matter as I am a business owner, I can tell you my staff got an average 20% pay increase this year and we did not remove any conditions. Staff are my most important asset, so I want to keep them.

but....

If we are to survive as a country and have any chance of keeping people employed, we need these reforms.

While there have been very bad examples out there, the unions are doing a HUGE beatup on the whole workplace agreement agenda. Before the changes every week in Australia an average of 11,000 people were sacked, I doubt it is any different now. I am sure that a % of these 11,000 were very unfair, but now we have the media and unions beating up to grab headlines.

In 12 months time we will see that these changes will bring a more flexiable workforce and allow employers to offer better individual agreements.

Just a few bits of info:

You cannot be forced to sign an agreement

4% pay increase is above the CPI and many people do not get any increase.

There are more jobs than workers, so I think unskilled workers will have no problems getting a job. That is if they could be bothered. We should stop the dole after 6 months and then see what happens to them.

While this change may not suite everyone, I think it is the best thing for the country.

[SHOCK]

Everthing Zap said

[jetute]

While I may have a biased view on this matter as I am a business owner, I can tell you my staff got an average 20% pay increase this year and we did not remove any conditions.  Staff are my most important asset, so I want to keep them.

but....

If we are to survive as a country and have any chance of keeping people employed, we need these reforms.

While there have been very bad examples out there, the unions are doing a HUGE beatup on the whole workplace agreement agenda.  Before the changes every week in Australia an average of 11,000 people were sacked, I doubt it is any different now.  I am sure that a % of these 11,000 were very unfair, but now we have the media and unions beating up to grab headlines.

In 12 months time we will see that these changes will bring a more flexiable workforce and allow employers to offer better individual agreements.

Just a few bits of info:

You cannot be forced to sign an agreement

4% pay increase is above the CPI and many people do not get any increase.

There are more jobs than workers, so I think unskilled workers will have no problems getting a job.  That is if they could be bothered.  We should stop the dole after 6 months and then see what happens to them.

While this change may not suite everyone, I think it is the best thing for the country.

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