Vaporate

[cqae]

Vaporate have a new product that clips over the injectors. The are metal & help to heat the fuel & aid the vapourisation process. They claim 15%-20% fuel savings & I was thinking about fitting them to my car. Was wondering if anyone has tried them & how they feel about them. They have a web site you can view-vaporate.com I am a bit sceptical but they seem pretty confident & say they have tried them on xr6t & got great results from fuel savings, to performance increases. Apparently on most cars just the nozzles get fitted but the t needs a new manifold gasket which I assume is due to the thickness of the original which has always been quite thick & inhibits the heat transfer. A concern I do have is overheating the injectors though, bu I assume they get cooled reasonably well by the fuel. Hope somone has tried them before cos I dont relly wanna be the ginuea pig with my car.

[Paradoxx]

Best thing to do would find the results on paper.. actual figures from whoever tested it on a T. If it gives an extra 50ks or so then it's gotta be beneficial.

[cqae]

yeah I have read their testing sheets & testimonials that they have on their website & have even spoken to ne of there dealers. But of course if you are selling a product you are only going to niclude the good stuff I was more looking to real world results people from here which I have found to be fairly accurate & reliable. The results they achieve seem fairly appealing & I can buy the set at trade price so it makes it a attractive system if it works.

[God666]

Sounds to me like they lubricate these things with Snake Oil.

Ask for a money-back ironclad guarantee. See if the b@stards stammer and if not, give em your money. Nothing to lose that way.

[cobrav8]

I was under the understanding that fuel was better cooler? I remember a guy running a race car that had a cooling can to cool the fuel entering a carburettor. Is it that different with injection?

Plus the pumping of fuel must heat it, and the return of excess fuel would help heat the fuel in the tank?

Also - if it could improve 15 - 20% my guess is Ford and Expensive Daewoo would fit to all the cars - they would sell twice as many!

Edited 12/05/05 04:26 AM by cobrav8

[Trough Lolly]

I was under the understanding that fuel was better cooler?

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same here

[CHIPS]

Sounds to me like they lubricate these things with Snake Oil.

Is it the same company who had those "whizzer things" you could fit under your carburettor??...........sounds like the same claims.

[Adam]

I was under the understanding that fuel was better cooler?

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same here

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I would think this is correct.

You want the air to be as cold as possible so why would you want the fuel that is being mixed with that air to be warmer than normal? It's only going to raise the air temp.

[cqae]

to my understanding, they work as follows:- as we all know an injector must atomise fuel as much as possible. but where the vaporised fuel hits the cool edges & surfaces it condenses & is not completely burnt. by having these heated tips on the injectors it aids in the vaporisation. Now I am not trying to sell these, I am VERY sceptical also, but they do offer a money back guarrantee although conditions apply. They have been tested by some independant testing company in australia & this is on their website. I just think it sounds viable but is probably too good to be true.

basically it sounds like all they do is put metal collars around the injectors, then these get heated by engine heating & this aids the vaporsation action. I just know I can get them for a couple of hundred bucks & am spending 80-90 bucks a weeks in fuel & if I can save 10-15% on fuel by it I would love to.

[Grass]

I was under the understanding that fuel was better cooler?

same here

I would think this is correct.

You want the air to be as cold as possible so why would you want the fuel that is being mixed with that air to be warmer than normal? It's only going to raise the air temp.

I agree guys, but you want your air as cold (dense) as possible until in enters into the compression chamber, then, who cares.

Warmer fuel would evaporate quicker, but then again, temps inside the chamber will be hot anyway, esp after compression stroke.

The main reason you want cold fuel is from the old days of carburetters and mechanical pumps. Cold fuel means no vapour lock in the supply lines. Warm / hot petrol at this point will probably result in a vapoir lock.

But with high pressure pumps and fuel injection, vapour locks are probably a thing of ther past....