BAturb Member 521 Member For: 21y 10m 13d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 15/04/05 08:50 AM Posted 15/04/05 08:50 AM at around 240rwks I have seen the dyno sheet for my injectors and they were maxed out
C.S.I Member 651 Member For: 21y 9m 11d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 15/04/05 09:39 AM Posted 15/04/05 09:39 AM Doesnt really answer the question of whether they are the same product though
JB Forum Superhero Legacy Donating Member 3,109 Member For: 22y 10m Location: Eastern Suburbs of Mexico Posted 15/04/05 11:12 AM Posted 15/04/05 11:12 AM I rang up herrod the other day and I asked him about he's so called "stealth" and asked him if is was similar or the same as and EDIT! He said he had never heard of a edit before ok whateva! So I asked what kind of output the stealth gives to your T and he said min 240rwkw so I told him I have an exhaust and CAI and he said then u would go up to the 250-260rwkw with no prob's and then I asked him and I would be maxing out my injectors and valve springs and he said no! Then he said to me not to believe those stuped forums haha and that u should never have to change your injectors or valve springs! So then I asked him if he recommended a custom tune and he said u dont need one unless u want to dyno it to see your output! Now has anyone actually brought a stealth cause I have a edit, exhaust CAI and my dyno was Before=200.5rwkw and after edit 231.9! AT the moment my injectors and valve springs are maxed out so I dont understand how herrod can get me up to 260rwkw without getting maxed out! Its go me f*cked! :oWho did you speak to at Herrod. Considering Rob went into the Edit in conjunction with CAPA someone is full of I think I know who it is.Myself and others who attend Calder have bumped into numerous people in XRt's and XR8's with the Herrod tune. They cannot work out why they cannot break into 13.5 or under for the qtr. As most melbourne guys know, herrods are aftermarket accessories suppliers, NOT TUNERS. I will pose the question that is always thrown up "Name one fast Herrod tuned car?"I now know of 4 people who had the Herrod tune, are not happy with it and have gone to nizpro or whoever to get it re-tuned, and the cars have come back completely different, with happy customers and very different power, same readings but different power.Anyone who tells you that you do not need a custom tune shows how little they know about these cars, and how individual each one is in relation to power output and tolerances. If you want to put your car in the hands of someone who seems to think the injectors have a limitless application, I wish you the best.Nomatter what the component they all have limits. I would rather change my injectors to ensure there is enough fuel, than find out at some point their limit when my engine goes bang.One testament to Herrods is Cameron's GT, the herrod flagship car, well over $20k spent on various mods including a herrod edit, and a fantatsic qtr mile best time of 13.8.Need I say more. I just cannot believe how arrogant and ignorant they can be.Flame me if you like, but what I have said is fact!
XRT8U Member 503 Member For: 22y 1m 29d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 15/04/05 11:37 AM Author Posted 15/04/05 11:37 AM yeah I know JB I just dont trust that bald head of he's!
corpex Member 113 Member For: 21y 9m 4d Location: Melbourne Posted 15/04/05 11:46 AM Posted 15/04/05 11:46 AM " One testament to Herrods is Cameron's GT, the herrod flagship car, well over $20k spent on various mods including a herrod edit, and a fantatsic qtr mile best time of 13.8. "Theres one happy customer, don't GT's run those times stock!!
JB Forum Superhero Legacy Donating Member 3,109 Member For: 22y 10m Location: Eastern Suburbs of Mexico Posted 15/04/05 11:53 AM Posted 15/04/05 11:53 AM " One testament to Herrods is Cameron's GT, the herrod flagship car, well over $20k spent on various mods including a herrod edit, and a fantatsic qtr mile best time of 13.8. "Theres one happy customer, don't GT's run those times stock!!When I say OVER $20k I am WAY past this figure. Considering I have seen stock GT's run flat 14's .2sec for $20k plus k does not add up for me.Not also forgetting that another melb tuner has done an edit only in a GT, no exhaust, throttle body or any of the other that Camerons has, stock except for an edit, never run down the qtr before and pulled a 13.3 I would be asking questions.The same questions that were asked by a XR8 ute owner from the vic street utes forum who could not crack into the 13's. Removed the herrod edit, ran it stock down the qtr 2 weeks ago, and did a 13.8?
corpex Member 113 Member For: 21y 9m 4d Location: Melbourne Posted 15/04/05 12:05 PM Posted 15/04/05 12:05 PM What a joke, I mean cars can be a money pit sometimes but this takes the cake!!
<XR6T> Member 37 Member For: 21y 7m 21d Posted 15/04/05 12:26 PM Posted 15/04/05 12:26 PM I rang up herrod the other day and I asked him about he's so called "stealth" and asked him if is was similar or the same as and EDIT! He said he had never heard of a edit before ok whateva! So I asked what kind of output the stealth gives to your T and he said min 240rwkw so I told him I have an exhaust and CAI and he said then u would go up to the 250-260rwkw with no prob's and then I asked him and I would be maxing out my injectors and valve springs and he said no! Then he said to me not to believe those stuped forums haha and that u should never have to change your injectors or valve springs! So then I asked him if he recommended a custom tune and he said u dont need one unless u want to dyno it to see your output! Now has anyone actually brought a stealth cause I have a edit, exhaust CAI and my dyno was Before=200.5rwkw and after edit 231.9! AT the moment my injectors and valve springs are maxed out so I dont understand how herrod can get me up to 260rwkw without getting maxed out! Its go me f*cked! <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Who did you speak to at Herrod. Considering Rob went into the Edit in conjunction with CAPA someone is full of :o I think I know who it is.Myself and others who attend Calder have bumped into numerous people in XRt's and XR8's with the Herrod tune. They cannot work out why they cannot break into 13.5 or under for the qtr. As most melbourne guys know, herrods are aftermarket accessories suppliers, NOT TUNERS. I will pose the question that is always thrown up "Name one fast Herrod tuned car?"I now know of 4 people who had the Herrod tune, are not happy with it and have gone to nizpro or whoever to get it re-tuned, and the cars have come back completely different, with happy customers and very different power, same readings but different power.Anyone who tells you that you do not need a custom tune shows how little they know about these cars, and how individual each one is in relation to power output and tolerances. If you want to put your car in the hands of someone who seems to think the injectors have a limitless application, I wish you the best.Nomatter what the component they all have limits. I would rather change my injectors to ensure there is enough fuel, than find out at some point their limit when my engine goes bang.One testament to Herrods is Cameron's GT, the herrod flagship car, well over $20k spent on various mods including a herrod edit, and a fantatsic qtr mile best time of 13.8.Need I say more. I just cannot believe how arrogant and ignorant they can be.Flame me if you like, but what I have said is fact! <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I agree with you. I have had the stealth since mid January and after 3 trips up and down the coast it is still sitting in the cupboard. These edits with base tunes arent worth a pinch of . For instance, I live in NQ where the temps are regularly around the 30 degree mark and sometimes higher. Now Rob is a great bloke, whom I have all the time in the world for, he has tried helping me out and I cant totally blame him for the tune not working in its base form (for me anyway). Now that I have found someone nearby to do custom tunes I will be going to him tomorrow morning to fix this thing once and for all.Now the base tunes are created in Melbourne (in Herrods case). I dont know what the temps are down there but I am assuming they are on average 15 to 20 degs cooler, which in some cases will give a 20rwkw advantage straight away. I would nearly bet my bottom dollar that if it was the same temp here I wouldnt have had any problems (surging, overboost etc). In my opinion the base tunes which are done in one place wont work (safely) all over Australia. Keep a few pennys spare and be prepared to get a custom tune for a couple of hundred bucks cause you will need it.
RAPHOON Legacy Donating Member 1,776 Member For: 23y 3m Posted 18/04/05 03:36 AM Posted 18/04/05 03:36 AM It seems that the off the shelf edits will give as much fluctuation in outputs as the standard cars have.I've had the (off the shelf) edit since early January. 265RWKW on a dyno logic, 255RWKW on a Dynodynamics the next day. Apart from the TC issue everything has been great. Goes like a cut snake, especially now with the cooling temps.Custom tune will be done with injectors and IC, but until then the car is fine.I've seen a lot of 230+RWKW custom tunes at 9PSI here. Did I just luck out on valve springs??
ZMAN Member 669 Member For: 23y 4m 26d Location: Inglewood, W.A Posted 18/04/05 06:07 AM Posted 18/04/05 06:07 AM As I am very interested in purchasing the Stealth unit I was wondering how many guys out there (with generic tune) are happy with them...?
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