Why Cant A Manual T?

[Buf-Phoon]

My friends GTR will be running 11's with stock sized turbos, he was getting them changed from the ceramic originals to new ball bearing T28's untill the worksop was broken into and all his new gear was flogged.

but you expect a T with stock turbo to run those kinda times. Get real dude.

Isnt Geea's, xrdreamings and soon to be xlr8ed cars already doing those times with stock turbos?

Dazza.

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Stock sized turbos so they arn't standard. Havent all those guys running 11's with T's had the turbos modified?

Please correct me if I am wrong but Craig and Dean are still both running stock factory Turbo's. To get into 10s they will certainly need further mods, including the turbo I would think... but we will see I suppose

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[TUFGSR]

I thought that those guys running T's in the 11s had the wastegate modified hence not stock, but either way both cars need to be modified to run those times.

Keep in mind there is a big difference when you put the power to the ground through 2 wheels compared to 4 wheels.

Trust me.

But you will generally find that 2WD can reach high top end speeds as there is less resistance in grip.

[SPIKO]

the biggest difference here is that the cars you mentioned are all AWD, that does wonders for 1/4 mile ET's due to the amazing go they have off the line, if you were to match a 11 sec GTR next to a 12 sec XR6T with a rolling start on an open road you would have a far closer race, couldnt guarantee who would win but it would be closer. 

But from what I have seen my mate pump into his GTR to run a 12.2, it is far cheaper to mod an XR6T to do a 12 than it is for a GTR, he has spent over $7000 to do a 12.2 and I am sure a few guys here have spent less to do a similar time.

Dazza.

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Lets not forget boy's that the fastest GTR is only rwd.

And the fastest cars in general are all rwd

Weight,weight and power are the difference.

And don't forget driver's

[turb06]

My friends GTR will be running 11's with stock sized turbos, he was getting them changed from the ceramic originals to new ball bearing T28's untill the worksop was broken into and all his new gear was flogged.

but you expect a T with stock turbo to run those kinda times. Get real dude.

Isnt Geea's, xrdreamings and soon to be xlr8ed cars already doing those times with stock turbos?

Dazza.

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Stock sized turbos so they arn't standard. Havent all those guys running 11's with T's had the turbos modified?

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The GTR will be running non stock turbos, but the same size as stock, and yes they do flow more.

And yes Geea, and co are still running stock turbo, the c & v xr6T that did the 10.8 was aslo running stock turbo. They are good for about 650hp I think.

Dazza.

[TUFGSR]

the biggest difference here is that the cars you mentioned are all AWD, that does wonders for 1/4 mile ET's due to the amazing go they have off the line, if you were to match a 11 sec GTR next to a 12 sec XR6T with a rolling start on an open road you would have a far closer race, couldnt guarantee who would win but it would be closer. 

But from what I have seen my mate pump into his GTR to run a 12.2, it is far cheaper to mod an XR6T to do a 12 than it is for a GTR, he has spent over $7000 to do a 12.2 and I am sure a few guys here have spent less to do a similar time.

Dazza.

Lets not forget boy's that the fastest GTR is only rwd.

And the fastest cars in general are all rwd

Weight,weight and power are the difference.

And don't forget driver's

What car do you refer too when you say the fastest GTR is RWD?

[TUFGSR]

My friends GTR will be running 11's with stock sized turbos, he was getting them changed from the ceramic originals to new ball bearing T28's untill the worksop was broken into and all his new gear was flogged.

but you expect a T with stock turbo to run those kinda times. Get real dude.

Isnt Geea's, xrdreamings and soon to be xlr8ed cars already doing those times with stock turbos?

Dazza.

Stock sized turbos so they arn't standard. Havent all those guys running 11's with T's had the turbos modified?

The GTR will be running non stock turbos, but the same size as stock, and yes they do flow more.

And yes Geea, and co are still running stock turbo, the c & v xr6T that did the 10.8 was aslo running stock turbo. They are good for about 650hp I think.

Dazza.

So you saying that these cars had absolutely no mods what so ever.

Are you sure about that?

[turb06]

the biggest difference here is that the cars you mentioned are all AWD, that does wonders for 1/4 mile ET's due to the amazing go they have off the line, if you were to match a 11 sec GTR next to a 12 sec XR6T with a rolling start on an open road you would have a far closer race, couldnt guarantee who would win but it would be closer. 

But from what I have seen my mate pump into his GTR to run a 12.2, it is far cheaper to mod an XR6T to do a 12 than it is for a GTR, he has spent over $7000 to do a 12.2 and I am sure a few guys here have spent less to do a similar time.

Dazza.

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Lets not forget boy's that the fastest GTR is only rwd.

And the fastest cars in general are all rwd

Weight,weight and power are the difference.

And don't forget driver's

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there is a point where it all changes again yes, but that usually involves tubs, slicks, very modified suspension and wheelie bars, I think this thread is more based around what can be done on street tyres and only minor suspension changes.

[turb06]

My friends GTR will be running 11's with stock sized turbos, he was getting them changed from the ceramic originals to new ball bearing T28's untill the worksop was broken into and all his new gear was flogged.

but you expect a T with stock turbo to run those kinda times. Get real dude.

Isnt Geea's, xrdreamings and soon to be xlr8ed cars already doing those times with stock turbos?

Dazza.

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Stock sized turbos so they arn't standard. Havent all those guys running 11's with T's had the turbos modified?

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The GTR will be running non stock turbos, but the same size as stock, and yes they do flow more.

And yes Geea, and co are still running stock turbo, the c & v xr6T that did the 10.8 was aslo running stock turbo. They are good for about 650hp I think.

Dazza.

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So you saying that these cars had absolutely no mods what so ever.

Are you sure about that?

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of course these cars have mods, if your referring to the turbo then they are the same size and same unit that came with the car, that to me is what a stock turbo is.

Dazza.

[TUFGSR]

If the turbo is modded ie wastegate bored out, bigger flap, high flowed then it is not stock. Stock turbo is exactly the way it came from the factory.

That is what I ment.

[turb06]

I think its best let Geea answer this one then. But I am pretty sure the turbos are left pretty much alone, the only thing I have heard being done is something to the wastegate to help the ECU contol it better, it isnt a major mod though, like boring it out as you said.

Dazza