15/02/05 08:33 PM15/02/05 08:33 PM #1 Quote from go-Auto Enews Feb 16 2005"By MARTON PETTENDYTHE future of Ford Performance Vehicles’ Typhoonsedan – which has joined the Blue Oval’sGT super-coupe as Ford’s second high-profileperformance model to be plagued by a major recallin as many months – remains in doubt.“We don’t have a .x at the moment,” said FordAustralia president Tom Gorman last week.“We’re not selling them – we’ve stopped themgoing into dealers.”Mr Gorman said a solution to Typhoon’s clutchproblem, which was exposed during performancetesting by Motor magazine and initially dismissedby FPV as the result of driver abuse, had not beenfound.“There are three issues: 95 per cent of the effortis going into a technical fix for the vehicle at themoment. Clearly that’s where we have to focus andit’s a complex relationship between Ford, FPV andAP Racing, which is the supplier of the clutch,”Mr Gorman said.“So we are making progress in terms of closingdown alternatives and honing in on the root causeand, ultimately, coming up with a fix. (But) Ican’t tell you today how quickly that’s going tohappen.”Owners of 80 Typhoon sedans in Australia and afurther seven in New Zealand have been offered anexchange FPV vehicle until the problem is fixed.However, only 16 Typhoon customers have chosento part with their vehicle.The Typhoon sedan was launched with muchfanfare in November as FPV’s first turbochargedsix-cylinder model and has a record 550Nm torqueoutput for an Australian-built production vehicle.But the clutch problem, and FPV’s subsequentdenial of it, has caused embarrassment for Ford– both publicly and internally.The media launch of Typhoon’s utility sibling,the Tornado ute, was also postponed and bothturbocharged FPV modelsremain unavailable.“I meet with FPV guys threedays a week and they don’treally want to meet with me …so we’re working really hard tofix this at the moment,” said Mr Gorman.“The other issue is the process, but when you’refaced with a problem you don’t do that until you’vefixed the problem. It’s a case of fix the problem andthen come back and look at the process breakdown– how did this happen?“And then I think there’s a behavioural issuehere, too, because this was identified to us andperhaps we didn’t listen as carefully as we shouldhave to the marketplace.“Culturally, we have to be careful of arrogance.When people tell you something you have tolisten. This is a very emotional game, particularlywith a performance vehicle.People put their heart and soulinto these things and so yousometimes get an immediatereaction that, really, betterthought through wouldn’t havebeen the appropriate reaction.“I think we’ve done a great job of taking careof the customers. We’ll fix the problem first, thenwe’ll get to the process issues. I don’t want to roll(FPV boss) David (Flint) under the bus. He’s madeFPV a great business.”The Typhoon debacle follows a similar recall inthe US involving Ford’s born-again GT supercar,which is currently doing the rounds at Australianmotor shows, including Brisbane last week andMelbourne from March 3.Ford Motor Company individually advised2005 GT owners in December “not to drive theirvehicle under any circumstances” until two recallswere performed.In the first of two recalls, Ford will inspect thefuel system of all GTs made between October 13and November 19, 2004. Some of the Ford GTsmay require the installation of a new fuel tank.The second recall involves all 470 GT coupesmanufactured at Ford’s Wixom, Michigan, SpecialVehicle Centre – from job one on June 30 to thefinal examples built on December 11. It relatesto potential suspension control arm fracture,replacement parts for which were not madeavailable until February 1 this year."Come on Tom, looks like you guys and Ford and FPV have finally relised that you MUST listen to the customer when they have problems.. So does this mean you will fix the clunking diff issues across the BA range?.......
15/02/05 09:24 PM15/02/05 09:24 PM #2 All the B.S claims about driver abuse etc has left them red faced a bit, overall though, it's disappointing for the Ford brand. This car could/should and may still be a stone cold killer one day, let's hope the day comes sooner for the poor bastards who own one. For my money, I bought a used XR6T, will modd it to the hilt over the next year and blow the doors of em all whilst saving a bundle
16/02/05 12:15 AM16/02/05 12:15 AM #3 I don't understand what is so hard about fixing the clutch. Surely AP or someone else has an off-the-shelf one that will bolt in and solve the problem? What are modded XR6T owners here using?Ford/FPV seem to put too much time and effort into R&D theory but very little into actual real world testing. If FPV devoted more time and effort into important things like having a decent drivetrain instead of wanky cosmetic things like starter buttons they would be way ahead.
16/02/05 12:22 AM16/02/05 12:22 AM #4 I don't understand what is so hard about fixing the clutch. Surely AP or someone else has an off-the-shelf one that will bolt in and solve the problem? l dont either. If money was not number one priority l am sure they would have a fix by now.l remain pissed off overall with my FPV experience after my shunt issues and they way they were handled, maybe they are startng to listen, who knows??
16/02/05 02:34 AM16/02/05 02:34 AM #5 What gets me is that when you hear “recall” you immediately think of thousands of cars and how busy Ford must be working around the clock to fix them – BUT THERE ARE ONLY 87 OF THEM IN THE WILD!I’m no automotive engineer, but how hard could it be?Trent.
16/02/05 02:46 AM16/02/05 02:46 AM #6 All the B.S claims about driver abuse etc has left them red faced a bit, overall though, it's disappointing for the Ford brand. This car could/should and may still be a stone cold killer one day, let's hope the day comes sooner for the poor bastards who own one. For my money, I bought a used XR6T, will modd it to the hilt over the next year and blow the doors of em all whilst saving a bundle <{POST_SNAPBACK}>took the words clean out of my mouth there!
16/02/05 06:25 AM16/02/05 06:25 AM #7 All the B.S claims about driver abuse etc <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeh Steve why the do we be these type of cars for..........to have fun in them :lol:
16/02/05 06:56 AM16/02/05 06:56 AM #8 Great, just what we needed here: another thread saying exactly what the other 50 threads about Typhoons have said. Guys, it's really, really, really old. We've heard it ALL before.I love my car, and I'm glad I bought a Typhoon over an XR6T, as I drive a kick-arse luxury car that is as rare as hen's teeth, and gives me what I want out of a car.You love your XR6Ts and are glad you bought yours over a Typhoon. You have a magnificent base upon which you can build a fearsome roadmonster offering superb bang for buck, or you can keep it standard and still blow most other cars off the roads.EVERYONE APPRECIATES THIS. Ford made mistakes and are trying to fix them. Get over it. We don't need or want to read it again.P.S. Thanks bdennis for posting the original article in this thread
16/02/05 07:45 AM16/02/05 07:45 AM #9 Great, just what we needed here: another thread saying exactly what the other 50 threads about Typhoons have said. Guys, it's really, really, really old. We've heard it ALL before.I love my car, and I'm glad I bought a Typhoon over an XR6T, as I drive a kick-arse luxury car that is as rare as hen's teeth, and gives me what I want out of a car.You love your XR6Ts and are glad you bought yours over a Typhoon. You have a magnificent base upon which you can build a fearsome roadmonster offering superb bang for buck, or you can keep it standard and still blow most other cars off the roads.EVERYONE APPRECIATES THIS. Ford made mistakes and are trying to fix them. Get over it. We don't need or want to read it again.P.S. Thanks bdennis for posting the original article in this thread <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I agree.good article btw
16/02/05 07:48 AM16/02/05 07:48 AM #10 BUT THERE ARE ONLY 87 OF THEM IN THE WILD!<{POST_SNAPBACK}>JDO's typhoon is build number 131...
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