Turncoat Scathing attacks Build a bridge Honda this Rocket surgery all classics and very funny But no need to be so defensive fellas.. The AC in the Ford is(just plain) sh*t compared with other cars we have owned. Its alright,take a deep breathe It dosent matter a toss if you turn it from 22 to 19.5 if it makes no difference in the air tempature coming out the vent. If the air temp remains almost the same its a crap set up. Surely you dont think we are stupid enough not to have tried different settings to get it colder? If only you had told me earlier to turn it down and not up to get it cooler. THE AIR COMING OUT OF THE VENTS ON ANY SETTING ISNT COLD ENOUGH FOR A NEW MODERN CAR IN MY OPINION. AND OTHERS BY THE SOUNDS OF IT. The question was asked and we answered. I have always found forums to be a tad(TAB) annoying. There are some great ones where the advice is invaluable. Forums on Italian motorcyles, classic cars etc. But forums on modern cars with very little, if any issues (and dealing with the general public) are somewhat pointless. With major issues like, what colour do you like?, what about these tyres?, what colour are the dash lights? And priceless advice like, "'Drive in performance mode to get colder air con"(Man I hope you were joking) its a quick reminder why I stay away from them. So as I drive off into the sunset with my white hairy arse sticking out the window, I bid you fair well. I'm going back to the Benelli Forum. I will only get fired up here. PS- 7000 posts is a worry.