Having driven a manual HSV for the last 5 years, I have just ordered an XR6T, but was unsure about the auto manual choice. So I hired an XT BA with auto (I know it's not the same).. And the auto is a sweet box. Changes quick, holds the gears, no lag, a great piece of work. However, it's not a manual. It doesn't feel like a manual. It's just not the same.. A couple of other points. When the auto is in the manual mode, it seems to be a little too far away to have fun. If it was the other way, different story. The other part is that being an auto, you can just forget the gear that you are in and have to look at the dash. In a manual, you don't have that problem. I drive a car no to get from A to B but because I love the drive. In a manual you drive, in an auto you motor. The cluch may be heavy, and not as efficient, but what fun.....