satz Member 65 Member For: 20y 6m 4d Posted 17/11/10 09:09 PM Posted 17/11/10 09:09 PM hidoes the FG turbo engine (whether G6ET or XR6T) lose power noticeably when it's hot?Does this occur mainly because of underbonnet heat buildup when parked hot, or is it mainly because of the outside temp?I know this is a problem with all turbo cars, to varying degrees, depending on location of intercooler, and also the engine zine, cooling effectiveness and the venting of underbonnet heat (esp when parked)My Mazda CX7 was bad in this regard, whilst my VW Golf GTI wasn't too bad in the sense that it 'regained' lost power pretty quickly once the car was driving.
spoolxr6 Member 312 Member For: 15y 10m 2d Posted 17/11/10 09:36 PM Posted 17/11/10 09:36 PM Hi mate, I'm only new to this forum but have been playing with these for some time. What you're experiencing is heatsoak. Can come from under bonnet temps and also from the inefficiency of the standard cooler. The factory ECU is sensing a rise in inlet temps and is then making changes to timing and fueling accordingly which will make your car feel more slugish. A larger cold air intake and a decent cooler will assist this graetly. Your VW probably had a more efficient standard intake cooling setup.
scottay Member 366 Member For: 16y 4m 24d Posted 17/11/10 10:02 PM Posted 17/11/10 10:02 PM As previously said, get a cooler and decent intake. Also your tuner will most likley install a hi flow thermostat and adjust the thermo fans if you get it tuned. I had mine tuned and now it bearly moved above 1/4 and im using the std cooler
Benny Member 1,869 Member For: 23y 1m 11d Gender: Male Location: Newcastle Posted 18/11/10 10:34 AM Posted 18/11/10 10:34 AM You'll never stop the loss of power from hot weather, just reduce the effect. The difference in power between a 10 deg day and a 30 deg day is substantial. As the guys say bigger cooler will make a good improvement.Benny
Banned1 Banned Banned 734 Member For: 16y 5d Gender: Male Location: Caloundra Posted 18/11/10 11:34 AM Posted 18/11/10 11:34 AM havent any you xr6t blokes fitted a waterspray ??? evo has them as std...helps intake temps...think I'll make one up....little project !
webby324 Legacy Donating Member 313 Member For: 16y 2m 18d Gender: Male Location: Yarra Valley Posted 19/11/10 06:04 AM Posted 19/11/10 06:04 AM Yeh the evos do have them standard, so do STI's with their top mounts. Can be pretty handy on mild hot days but did bugger all on the really hot days. After all, the water your spraying still gets bloody hot to.
RIP_HSV HOON Member 1,636 Member For: 16y 6m 2d Gender: Male Location: W.A Posted 19/11/10 07:08 AM Posted 19/11/10 07:08 AM Have seen water spray installed on a few XR's... dont know how much difference it would make
satz Member 65 Member For: 20y 6m 4d Posted 19/11/10 08:04 AM Author Posted 19/11/10 08:04 AM Hoping the fmic on falcons doesnt heatsoak as much as the tmic on wrx or mazdas?
Henz Tampon inserted, Auto Acquired, next purchase a new handbag Legacy Donating Member 9,946 Member For: 18y 5m 28d Gender: Male Location: Vic Posted 19/11/10 09:28 AM Posted 19/11/10 09:28 AM I drove an hour and 20 mins from Calder, plus about 45 mins driving before hand on a 30+ degree day, and near theend of the drive the car would barely chirp 2nd!! Stock coooler gets baaad heatsoak (I was practicing a few launches/changes on the way )Anyways, let it cool down for an hour, the temp dropped to low 20s and the car felt 100% again, so the stock cooler dispers's it quickly I guess.
jsme Member 18 Member For: 15y 11m 28d Posted 19/11/10 11:37 AM Posted 19/11/10 11:37 AM Yeah my VZ Clubsport does this. Feels like an absolute weapon until you sit in traffic and let the heat build up, then it's gutless, feels probably 20% down on power. Once I get moving and cool air flowing through the motor it's back to normal. Takes probably 5-10mins to cool back down. The stock intake on them is pathetic.
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