Bomber Carnage on the Garage Floor Legacy Donating Member 3,994 Member For: 16y 4m 10d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 30/05/11 02:49 AM Posted 30/05/11 02:49 AM (edited) I only did it for looks but I'm happy. I can't tell the difference performance wise.Your car is the best looking one I've seen mate. If they were going to make them factory - that's how it would look. CES went to a lot of trouble on a customers car to try and get it to flow as well as their 3.5" single. This included muffler swaps, different tube diameters, etc. Their preference was actually to make a 'fake one' done in a way so nobody would really notice (unless under the car) so the owner would get the required look and the best flow possible. However, the owner wanted it to work so they made it up. They have done back to back dyno comparisons (they have their own) and a quad system loses 12rwkw minimum over a 3.5" single. Still an improvement over the stock zorst but it actually costs you more (to do a quad) over their awesome system, to lose horsepower . I get why people like the look and how it balances the appearance of the rear but too bigger price IMO -especially if you're planning to mod. Edited 30/05/11 02:52 AM by bomber
dre Resident idiot. Legacy Donating Member 2,068 Member For: 16y Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 30/05/11 05:24 AM Posted 30/05/11 05:24 AM The guys at CES know their sh*t. There's a guy there with a Mazda MPS like I had- I pinched heaps of ideas from him lol. I wouldn't do a fake tip as over time one will discolour and look retarded. -My mods get fitted in a few weeks. I'll let people know how annoying the exhaust becomes.
Bomber Carnage on the Garage Floor Legacy Donating Member 3,994 Member For: 16y 4m 10d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 30/05/11 07:01 AM Posted 30/05/11 07:01 AM The guys at CES know their sh*t. There's a guy there with a Mazda MPS like I had- I pinched heaps of ideas from him lol. I wouldn't do a fake tip as over time one will discolour and look retarded. Only looks retarded once discoloured.... ok then Mate you car is a class act - we're all allowed one screw up, lol. Just make this your only one - he he, my bad!Bomber promise - no more bagging quads, everybody gets it already! I'm sure the tune will go well and all said, if everybody went the same look it would be pretty damn boring mate
dre Resident idiot. Legacy Donating Member 2,068 Member For: 16y Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 30/05/11 09:35 PM Posted 30/05/11 09:35 PM lol you can pick on my car. I don't mind. Used to cop it all day with my old car hence why I modded the thing to the level I did.
hypnodoc It's All In Your Mind Legacy Donating Member 2,198 Member For: 22y 10m 22d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 31/05/11 05:39 AM Posted 31/05/11 05:39 AM (edited) Your car is the best looking one I've seen mate. If they were going to make them factory - that's how it would look. CES went to a lot of trouble on a customers car to try and get it to flow as well as their 3.5" single. This included muffler swaps, different tube diameters, etc. Their preference was actually to make a 'fake one' done in a way so nobody would really notice (unless under the car) so the owner would get the required look and the best flow possible. However, the owner wanted it to work so they made it up. They have done back to back dyno comparisons (they have their own) and a quad system loses 12rwkw minimum over a 3.5" single. Still an improvement over the stock zorst but it actually costs you more (to do a quad) over their awesome system, to lose horsepower . I get why people like the look and how it balances the appearance of the rear but too bigger price IMO -especially if you're planning to mod.Hey Bomber, you sound like a sales rep for CES, a bigger Dump, Cat, and Centre Muffler fcuks the 12kw theory completely. What you should be saying is that a 3.5 inch system might, depending on the vehicle, give a standard car 12kw more if fitted to a standard system than what a rear Quad system will. A quad system on a standard car will not rob 12 kw, and you can lose 12 kw on a hot day due to temperature and air quality. At the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference. I put them on mine for looks and picked up 4rwkw on the same dyno, and in my opinion any BA BF or FG looks a lot better with the rear balanced by Quads. Edited 31/05/11 05:43 AM by hypnodoc
Bomber Carnage on the Garage Floor Legacy Donating Member 3,994 Member For: 16y 4m 10d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 31/05/11 06:19 AM Posted 31/05/11 06:19 AM
f6mark Member 2,909 Member For: 15y 7m 6d Gender: Male Posted 31/05/11 07:21 AM Posted 31/05/11 07:21 AM LOL
Vevapower Waiting for the 1st N/A 12! Legacy Donating Member 2,533 Member For: 18y 7m 10d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 31/05/11 09:58 AM Posted 31/05/11 09:58 AM Hi,I have a 12/2007 BF MKII 6T...given the build date it has the silver inserts on the spoilers...I likethe appearance BUT it only supports a single exhaust...what options do I have to maintain the current"stock" look that supports the twin exhaust setup...I guess I could always use a hacksaw... Any advice on my options...cost...and business in Adelaide that can make the modification would be veryappreciated...thanks... Mate I'd happily sell you my quad set up as I want to return to single only as where I'm going with my power it will hold me back. Though not sure if the FG quad is the same set up as the BF!
Bomber Carnage on the Garage Floor Legacy Donating Member 3,994 Member For: 16y 4m 10d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 31/05/11 10:18 AM Posted 31/05/11 10:18 AM Hey Bomber, you sound like a sales rep for CES, a bigger Dump, Cat, and Centre Muffler fcuks the 12kw theory completely. lol, would love to be rep for them mate, then I'd have one of their systems. I don't think you got the comparison mate. Nothing to do with air, heat soak, etc. Same dump and cat used. The difference was purely quads vs single. Everybody knows they rob power over a single - thems the facts. If you fit them it's purely from a cosmetic point of view - the performance argument is pointless.
dre Resident idiot. Legacy Donating Member 2,068 Member For: 16y Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 31/05/11 09:25 PM Posted 31/05/11 09:25 PM +1 for the CES gear. And there are ways to reclaim the lost power.
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