Smoke them tyres Member 557 Member For: 18y 9m Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 25/12/07 09:07 PM Posted 25/12/07 09:07 PM Have been reading that some cars have been twisting input shafts on these boxes and that a newer (improved) heat treated item is now available. Is there a build date for cars for this uprated/improved item? What will the old one take before it shows signs of distress and temporarily curtails the search for more power? Are there any other weaknesses that increased power levels have shown with this box?
F6BF Member 438 Member For: 20y 9m 9d Location: Sydney Posted 26/12/07 06:17 AM Posted 26/12/07 06:17 AM I spoke with ZF australia about a new updated input shaft, they say it has not changed still the sameI know Kewish automatics in vic strengthen the shafts and also beef up the clutch packs with extra clutches
senna_T Forged Member Legacy Donating Member 15,818 Member For: 19y 7m 14d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 26/12/07 10:01 AM Posted 26/12/07 10:01 AM extra clutches! the thing already has triple clutch packs in it! must be getting pretty cramped in that bell housing!
F6BF Member 438 Member For: 20y 9m 9d Location: Sydney Posted 26/12/07 01:07 PM Posted 26/12/07 01:07 PM The piston in the clutch hub needs to be machined down and the top pressure plate thickness has to be altered to take the extra clutches
Felix Large Member Member 564 Member For: 19y 7m 15d Location: Brisvegas Posted 26/12/07 01:17 PM Posted 26/12/07 01:17 PM Sounds pricey? Ever heard costs?Does it change the feel and shift characteristics of the box?Felix
F6BF Member 438 Member For: 20y 9m 9d Location: Sydney Posted 26/12/07 01:44 PM Posted 26/12/07 01:44 PM U would have to speak with kewish regarding pricingShifts are quicker, sharper, firmer
F6_Tornado F6+300+ Member 940 Member For: 21y 10m 13d Location: In The Ute Posted 26/12/07 10:07 PM Posted 26/12/07 10:07 PM I spoke with ZF australia about a new updated input shaft, they say it has not changed still the sameI know Kewish automatics in vic strengthen the shafts and also beef up the clutch packs with extra clutchesZF won’t admit to the shaft problem or a new heat treated one they NOW sell. Simply buy a new input shaft (1068 271 097) and compare. $360.00I doubt Kewish are doing anything to the shafts apart from buying the latest heat treated one.The “E” clutch pack (4th, 5th, and 6th gears) is the weakest link and you can increase the number of Frictions Discs and plates from 6 to eight which is cheap as chips. I actually increase the Friction discs in mine in “A’ ‘B’ & ‘E” packs>>>>> 6, 6 & 8 respectively. From 5, 5 and 6.
F6BF Member 438 Member For: 20y 9m 9d Location: Sydney Posted 27/12/07 02:57 AM Posted 27/12/07 02:57 AM Thanks for the info Did u do any mods to the valve body?Cheers
F6_Tornado F6+300+ Member 940 Member For: 21y 10m 13d Location: In The Ute Posted 27/12/07 05:13 AM Posted 27/12/07 05:13 AM Nope. Not untill I can be 100% sure the input shaft is strong enough to cope or BANG another one !!!! Being individual clutch modulation it is easy to attack each one but not just yet.Actually just did Youngy's ZF today and put 7 Discs and plates in B pack and 8 in E so see how that goes with 400+++ Rwks .. Youngy will give it a workout and some!!!!
Smoke them tyres Member 557 Member For: 18y 9m Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 27/12/07 07:01 AM Author Posted 27/12/07 07:01 AM Any ideas of fitment dates (re build dates) for the "new" item?
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