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Is the auto stronger or the manual.  

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the manual is probabily stronger, also it would be still drivable if it sh*ts itself. the other plus would be that the manual wouldn't cost anywhere near as much as the auto to rebuild. ALSO considering the T5 was used in the states in the mustangs I'm pretty that the yanks would have a rebuild kit that would make it much stronger...

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I think we have speculated about this in great detail, I personally have little interest in unsubstantiated comments.... but.... I'm happy to hear the facts, and accurate justification.

For starters, Fordboy, please tell me why you say this is so? Have you tested the T5, do you have a mate that's tested it, have you information from the manufacture. And I assume you have done the same with the Auto?

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ok well, I know how much it costs to rebuild an auto and I also know how much it cost to rebuild a manual....

Auto : $2300 fitted

Manual : $800 fitted

I have a mate who has a turbo AU that put out about 230rwkws, the standard auto lasted 2 weeks (it had done 30,000km) replaced it with a new, strengthened one (was supposed to take up to 400hp, the limit of the 4-speed), blow-up in 10,000km. NOW he runs a standard AU XR6 T-5 (not the one out of the XR8, which the new turbo uses, which is also stronger) and is making about 260rwkws. He has put about another 20,000km on the clock with no hassles and as he said at the rate I was going through autos and that price I could blow-up a T-5 once a week and still be ahead....

also the bottom-line is with these Auto vs. Manual debates is we need someone with an Auto or a manual that is not happy with it and wish they had order the other...

plus I'm only voicing my oppinion, I don't like being be-littled just because you don't agree....

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Nice work Fordboy, hey has your mate with the AU done anything to clean up the shift quality of T5. 260rwks from an AU XR6 is huge. I was happy when I got my AU up to 160rwk (N/A) - it was an auto and felt as if it was on its last legs. My BA is a manual and I have a bit of a conspiracy theory....listen in....

Before I get flamed, this is just my oppinion but I rekon, Ford is deliberately spreading the rumour about the T5 being weak so that people don't do up the XRT. Seeing how easy it is to get BIG power out of this car, Ford don't want it to take sales away from the 8's so they tell everyone how dodgy the T5 is and everyone is too scared to do up the XRT. Also, from a warranty point of view Ford wouldn't want every Tom, Dick and his dog come walking in with warranty claims on his 300+kw XRT. Lastly, I think Ford very well knows the potential of this vehicle and it would be tremedously bad publicity if someone wrapped a 400kw XRT around a tree. Motor mag seems to be making a point of telling us how close the T5 is to death - is Ford in their ear? It would be an interesting strategy I must say. I have heard of Herrod AU Xr8's and other cars getting about with 300+kw still running T5's. The question is who will be the guinea cops to mod a manual first and prove this theory?

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the torque limiter is supposed to work well from all accounts ... manual and auto ...

the tangs mostly ran the T3560s and the Cobras the T45 manuals .... still gave heaps of problems in the states ....

the TKO box or the T56 six speed are the best ... will cope with 550Nm easy ....my XRT is auto and I enjoy it ... :huh:

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well I just know what I've seen in australia, in mates cars and other modded falcons.....before the BA the T5 was praised for having a better shift and feel to the T56 (read back in the a few articles of motor, namely the 220kw AU vs gen3 VT) and there has never been suggestion that it's a weak 'box, this back's up CDM's theory. As hard as it is to believe in todays modern world, I think CDM could be on the money...

also I will be more then happy to mod mine, if the manual blows, it isn't going to cost an arm and a leg (unlike the auto) so I'm not really worried...

Dave.

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