Sign Of Ford Pulling Out From V8sc

[01txr]

Did I say my car would beat a v8 supercar NO.

Would a historic touring car beat one NO.

But I can tell you this historics look and sound alot better on the track than any v8 supercar.

My point with the right exhausts a power increase and susspension parts which are allocated for each vehicle a production car will be a more real thing and not some silicon tit fake car you can only dream of with your hand down your pants.

I prefer to watch things I can try to afford, it relates better and has more purpose.

Not to mention sales for companies who would promote these affordable parts that are Department of Transport approved eg APS, RDP, Capa etc etc upgrade kits.

Maybe include a class that allows a Capa sealed std vortec v1 with boost limit control to say 10 psi supercharger on v8's.

Eg Dam that setup on that black APS xr6t works well I will go buy that one.

And the way those Tein adjustable suspension works on it I will go and purchase them as well.

This will work for all makes of cars as there would be a greater variety.

There is plenty of options to make it exciting.

And Iam not saying that v8 supercars are boring just a bit one sided with favour going to gmh as well it does not in any form relate to my car except cosmetic eg doors boot lid, lights etc etc..

[tab]

CAPA, RDP, APS......where does any of that fit in to a "production" category? That'd be no better than it is now without very strict controls.

I think you're sensationalising your theories a bit buddy. AVESCO & TEGA certainly ‘overlook’ things that they shouldn’t - but your conspiracy theories are a bit far fetched.

Edited 10/03/07 02:06 AM by tab

[chooch]

CAPA, RDP, APS......where does any of that fit in to a "production" category?  That'd be no better than it is now without very strict controls.

I think you're sensationalising your theories a bit buddy.  AVESCO & TEGA certainly ‘overlook’ things that they shouldn’t - but your conspiracy theories are a bit far fetched.

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dont worry, the Ford Boss is just trying to scare the drivers. He is the CEO it's his job to put people under pressure to perform.

it's all good.

[sixfan]

The V8's are a good form of racing because they're so close, the reason we have v8 supercar racing (ford or Expensive Daewoo ONLY) is because an m3, porsche or any one of a plethora of jap cars would "wipe the floor" with any local product...and the typical hairy backed, knuckle dragging, empty headed V8 drongos would stay away in droves, ruins thier happy reality where a v8 holden / ford is the best car in the world. (seaton + richards on the podium in a skyline....memories anyone?)

Enjoy the racing for what it is, we all know that the supercars have sod-all to do with what's at the car yard. I'm different to Adam, I prefer the production enduro's where only very limited mods are allowed, you really can see what a good car is, I remember very early (EF xr6's I think..) doing very well in the production class, power close to the 8's but much less weight meant that they could stay out longer and thier brakes lasted better. Real cars being put to the test.

now THAT would be a great idea for production racing...Cage, brake and seat / harness mechanical mods only, but throw the door open to software changes, do a series of six hour enduro's.

I like to see the hardware put to the test.....

[01txr]

TAB what I was trying to say is only suggestions of a more interesting series. Production cars or if the majority don't want to see slow cars have a series with strickly controlled affordable mods only.

APS Capa & RDP all do components to suit a wide range of vehicles that don't cost a arm and leg.

Keep drive trains as per Factory with seals so can't be tampered with, allow common upgrades like exhaust, edit's, intakes and coil over suspensions but no mods to suspension arms and locating points.

With more vareity gmh would find it harder to dictate the rules when more manufacturer's are involved.

[Mr X]

I know with my own t at 270rwkw it is a hand full under WOT and that's with 265 wide 19's on rear..

How can you say that it would be to boring as they would be to slow.

Because it is slow!

I'd put every dollar I have, even on Jack Perkins in his V8 Supercar to wipe the floor with you and your 270rwkw XR6T around any race track.

It's a purpose built RACE car. Your XR6T STREET car wouldn't stand a chance!

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How about something along these lines? 620 hp V8 supercar circa 1970?Built in house by Ford.A modern version of it that is.

http://www.bowdensown.com.au/cars/gthosupa.html

[Evil F6]

Nissan and Toyota?? Do they make V8's do they?

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Of course. Lexus and Infiniti (Nissan's posh division) both have glorious V8's of 4.4-5L capacity. The New Lexus IS500 is stuffing a 5L V8 in the IS250 body and going M3 hunting. many say the Lexus V8 is one of the world's best; absolutely bullet proof and popular in conversions.

[mbjunior99]

Yeah I forgot about lexus but I have never heard of Infiniti. Do they sell those here??

[tmac450]

I've read some crap on this forum but this thread contains some of the most stupid comments I've ever read.

Explain to me how AVESCO are favoring Holden?

Look at the race results over the last few years...

The series is competitive, alive and well!

I like V8 Supercars just the way it is. The new rule changes will only improve the series. The playing field is as level as it will probably ever get with the parity and Project Blueprint rules. All that makes for good close racing.

The Ford teams are now working together more than ever before to battle manufacturer vs manufacturer rather than the Ford teams standing alone against a mostly united Expensive Daewoo front.

I have absolutely no interest in watching production or semi modified XR8, GT, SS or HSV's racing around a track. The fact is they're just to slow and aren't exciting to watch compared to the current breed of supercar.

And anyone that thinks the XR8 or SS they buy tomorrow is anything like the V8 Supercar they saw win yesterday is a complete fool.

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You must watch car racing with your eyes closed. For such a passionate fan of V8 Supercars, you seem too miss the obvious bais towards the two main Expensive Daewoo teams. Even my die hard Expensive Daewoo friends think the series is rigged, they just like it because it's in their favour.

To fob off production cars because it is slow is ignorant to say the least. The exotics lap at almost the same pace as the V8s. You then get the added benefit of multiple classes and can see how real world cars compare to each other. It's what V8s evolved from and the changes only happened because the most competitive car Expensive Daewoo could produce was a big V8 sedan, and rather than improve themselves, lobied to have the rules changed to suit themselves.

If parity is your thing, then go watch formula Ford, or if you need speed, formula Expensive Daewoo or A1 GPs. None of theose pretend to be anything other than a one make event.

Look at what V8 Supercars has done to the Aussie car industry. Ford and Expensive Daewoo haven't had to improve their cars to be track competitive because the race cars have nothing to do with their production models, and they have no other competition. Now with a market shift to higher quality, more fuel efficient cars, Ford and Expensive Daewoo have been left out in the cold and are forced to play catch-up. All the while in Japan and all over Europe, they've continued to run true production car racing and their production vehicles have benefited greatly from it. Turn back the clock to when the series used to be production cars and see what us consumers benefited from, GT Falcons, GTS Monaros, XU-1 Toranas, 4 wheel disk brakes on production cars, indipendent rear ends, mini coopers (hot hatch forerunner). What has V8 Supercars bought us in terms of development???? Obsolutly nothing!

You really need to pull your head out of the sand, take a step back and take a proper look at what's going on in racing.

[Evil F6]

Yeah I forgot about lexus but I have never heard of Infiniti. Do they sell those here??

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They did for awhile in the 90's but it was a flop. It's unfortunate as they now make some awesome cars. There is talk of another try. It's doing well in the USA. I'd love to see the Infiniti Q35, which is related to the 350Z but more practical.