EXIT Member 41 Member For: 18y 5m 4d Location: Brisbane Posted 31/01/07 02:30 PM Share Posted 31/01/07 02:30 PM Hi Guys,I started a similar thread to this in another forum but there seems to be a lot more people with heavily modified cars here so I thought I would introduce myself and see if you can assist me with my project.Until recently I had a V8 VY Late model camira one tonner. I had done the EDIT and exhaust and 4.1 diff and had bought a full twin turbo kit from Doughboy for it to go nuclear but no matter how many times that I did the numbers it just kept adding up wrong. Too many mods, too much money and most importantly too many legal / insurance/ resale issues for my taste. Then to seal the deal I sold my business and didn't need a ute anymore.So I sold the ute and the kit and bought a showroom condition 04 MK1 BA XR6T five speed manual in the sexy metallic blue- 26 000 kms. I also bought a cheap Magna as my daily driver at least until the rebuild is complete. So I'm ready to start.I've been doing some homework but I would appreciate some advice from people who know what they are talking about (as opposed to those that just talk a lot ) The more specific you can be the more help you'll be ( part no.'s help). I'll post updates as I go so it might be fun to follow.Here's the general brief- 400- 500rwkw ( we'll see how far the funds go) street sleeper - It has to be totally reliable and fairly civilized to drive around town. It will run a few test and tune passes but never see a circuit track. Engine- full rebuildI bought a n/a BA motor with 60 k's as a rebuild motor. It's on the stand and coming apart.Have ordered the gaskets, bearings etc as well as CP forged pistons and Spool Hbeam rods with ARP bolts. Spoke to Kosteki in WA about billet oil pump gears but they want $600 so I'm still shopping for them?I am puting off the hard decisions about whether I go for bigger turbo and external WG +manifold until the engine is built.One thing I have to decide now which I would appreciate informed advice on is whether to O'ring the block, use aftermarket head studs and what sort of head gasket to use? I did some searches and there seems to be no mention of this. I'm wondering if this is because the stock setup is bullet proof or what?I decided not to buy ARP main bolts as this seems like overkill.?I'm still trying to decide whether to use my XR6T head or bring the n/a one up to spec so I can sell my motor unopened (with 26k's on it I figure I'll get good money for it). Need to do more research/ costings on this.I'll have a billion other questions as I go along but if you can help with these I'd appreciate it a lot.I have no interest in impressive sounding parts lists- just reliable HP.Thanks,JeffPS- any help on getting T56 six speed at the right price would be great too? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32222-help-required-building-serious-power/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxx Colossal Member Member 5,049 Member For: 20y 9m 8d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 31/01/07 02:37 PM Share Posted 31/01/07 02:37 PM Well sounds like you are well on your way... you have come to the right place that's for sure! Have a bit of a dig around, especially in the modifications forums and tuners' forums... you will find plenty of useful around the place (you might have to sift a bit)Good luck! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32222-help-required-building-serious-power/#findComment-492396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagabond Bored Member Administrator 35,722 Member For: 22y 6m 18d Gender: Male Location: Dé·jà vu Posted 31/01/07 02:42 PM Share Posted 31/01/07 02:42 PM I'm in the talk a lot book so I'll just point you here for what has to be the best build up x 2 on the forum:http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22416Edit:or here:http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=29589or here:http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=29905 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32222-help-required-building-serious-power/#findComment-492397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP1D Member Donating Members 3,739 Member For: 19y 12d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 31/01/07 10:51 PM Share Posted 31/01/07 10:51 PM You need a T56 6sp box and super strong clutch to hold the power mate, those 5sps are glass boxes. Could be upwards of 7k. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32222-help-required-building-serious-power/#findComment-492450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flukey Seriously Flukey Member Donating Members 4,354 Member For: 21y 2m 11d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 31/01/07 11:07 PM Share Posted 31/01/07 11:07 PM I take it you are in Perth.Look up Extreme Ford Tuninghttp://www.xtremefordtuning.com/ Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32222-help-required-building-serious-power/#findComment-492451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6 UTE - Track Bound EVO III - Member 3,367 Member For: 20y 5m 16d Gender: Male Location: Strapped in and holding on Posted 31/01/07 11:30 PM Share Posted 31/01/07 11:30 PM $600 for oil pump gears is cheap!! I have busted mine, and with only 310rwkw.KPM have just listed up long motor options, check out there thread, it will give you an idea on parts list, and maybe another ( cheaper option )FWIW, budget ~$16k for driveline if you want to run a manual sedan at the drags, and make it stick!. ( Box, Clutch + CV's. ) Add ~$10k for turb and wastegate. Speak to Nizpro or RDP, they both do kits with manifoilds/gates.Then build the engine......F6 clutch with upgraded discs, or Mal Wood Twin are the only viable options to hold the power, and be 'nice' on the road..As for worrying about being street friendly................... I went for a ride in Simon from Xtreme's car. well over 400rwkw, and drove like an XT Taxi off throttle.. 400rwkw is the new 300rwkw, and 500rwkw is Speak to bcl about 600rwkw...............................Good Luck, interesting project.. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32222-help-required-building-serious-power/#findComment-492453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXIT Member 41 Member For: 18y 5m 4d Location: Brisbane Posted 31/01/07 11:50 PM Author Share Posted 31/01/07 11:50 PM Thanks guys, I will follow those links and have a good read when I get a moment. I read a great thread from Xtreme on a stage by stage build up with dyno results at each stage which was very helpful.Unfortunately I am in fact in Brisbane so I can only talk with them at a distance. I have to go have a chat with Redcliffe Dyno as they seem to be well regarded with these cars. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32222-help-required-building-serious-power/#findComment-492462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXIT Member 41 Member For: 18y 5m 4d Location: Brisbane Posted 31/01/07 11:56 PM Author Share Posted 31/01/07 11:56 PM "Speak to bcl about 600rwkw..............................."who is bcl ?I should add that this is going to be largely a DIY project - partly because I like building stuff myself but mostly because that's the only way can afford to do it ! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32222-help-required-building-serious-power/#findComment-492466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Member 214 Member For: 21y 4m 21d Posted 31/01/07 11:57 PM Share Posted 31/01/07 11:57 PM (edited) $10K for turbo and wastegate? Do you have anymore info on the spool rods? How much they are, what they are rated too etc? Edited 31/01/07 11:59 PM by dansedgli Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32222-help-required-building-serious-power/#findComment-492468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPHOON Donating Members 1,776 Member For: 21y 11m 5d Posted 01/02/07 12:06 AM Share Posted 01/02/07 12:06 AM Thanks guys, I will follow those links and have a good read when I get a moment. I read a great thread from Xtreme on a stage by stage build up with dyno results at each stage which was very helpful.Unfortunately I am in fact in Brisbane so I can only talk with them at a distance. I have to go have a chat with Redcliffe Dyno as they seem to be well regarded with these cars.←Whereabouts in Brisbane are you?? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32222-help-required-building-serious-power/#findComment-492469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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