Kimberley Scott www.australianflag.org.au Donating Members 6,763 Member For: 19y 10m 8d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 30/09/06 11:24 AM Share Posted 30/09/06 11:24 AM Couldn't agree more. Auto drivers are like women, they think they are cool, can do anything, but really they are usless are only fun on the odd occassion.Scotty Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/28851-heel-toeing/page/4/#findComment-443004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ2CME Formerly XR6NA Member 3,512 Member For: 19y 5m 25d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 30/09/06 11:26 AM Share Posted 30/09/06 11:26 AM Mate I have tried left foot braking, never got the hang of it. Without my left foot holding me back in my seat and the lack of control over my left foot, I found left foot breaking resulted in me moving forward in my seat lock up and general kaos.Those who are good at it generally swear by it.Scotty←I'm the same alwasy seem to almost lock up when I tried to break with my left foot. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/28851-heel-toeing/page/4/#findComment-443005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ2CME Formerly XR6NA Member 3,512 Member For: 19y 5m 25d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 30/09/06 11:27 AM Share Posted 30/09/06 11:27 AM Couldn't agree more. Auto drivers are like women, they think they are cool, can do anything, but really they are usless are only fun on the odd occassion.Scotty←I hope your missus isn't reading this. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/28851-heel-toeing/page/4/#findComment-443006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
81CJH Member 204 Member For: 19y 8m 8d Gender: Male Location: Brisvegas Posted 30/09/06 01:02 PM Share Posted 30/09/06 01:02 PM now what about left foot braking I would love to hear someones interpretation of this, I,m an avid believer of this technique or my left foot has a mind of its own←If you can left foot brake, blip on downshifts, manage to turn in and still stay in your seat, you're not a driver, you're an acrobat. Or Nick Mason.Still, if you're coordinated enough to do it, it makes a lot of sense. As much as I probably shouldn't mention his name here, if you're ever watching the V8's of a weekend, check out Mark Skaife's footwork. Probably most of the others too, but he's the only one I've seen on pedal cam.Anyway proffesional drivers have these great things called race buckets (called buckets for a reason) not to mention 6 point harnesses. Their problem isn't falling out, it's trying to breathe. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/28851-heel-toeing/page/4/#findComment-443046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromie0 Member 49 Member For: 18y 9m 19d Posted 01/10/06 01:51 AM Author Share Posted 01/10/06 01:51 AM I would agree that heel toeing is more sympathetic to the car then just braking and selecting a gear. Done improperly I can see it being an issue, but done properly it is a great way to maintain the life of your gearbox, clutch and driveline. I think left foot braking is good, but never have been able to get the hang of it myself, though the XR6T isn't the best for it either - as far as my technique goes! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/28851-heel-toeing/page/4/#findComment-443176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XR68UZ XR68UZ Donating Members 732 Member For: 19y 4m 16d Location: Sydney Posted 01/10/06 02:07 AM Share Posted 01/10/06 02:07 AM pffff....bunch of amateurs. I don't even use the clutchOh that’s right, I drive a vehicle with a transmission designed in the 21st century ←hahhaha!!! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/28851-heel-toeing/page/4/#findComment-443178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,332 Member For: 19y 8m 2d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 01/10/06 02:33 AM Share Posted 01/10/06 02:33 AM pffff....bunch of amateurs. I don't even use the clutchOh that’s right, I drive a vehicle with a transmission designed in the 21st century ← Mid 20th Century at best Trent. 1948 was the first, mass produced torque convertored Auto, just cos you have a few more gears and whizzbangs dont make it different! Lumpy ←Just ask Shock and Tab the ZF is equivelent to a supercomputer.Scotty←you mean that our cars have finally got a six speed planetary gear box thats computer controlled with torque convertor lock up in each gear...? ask f6_tornado how long this has been around on off highway trucks..... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/28851-heel-toeing/page/4/#findComment-443182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QikSmurf Member 246 Member For: 21y 10m 13d Posted 03/10/06 06:27 AM Share Posted 03/10/06 06:27 AM Guys, Heel/Toe gear changes are the only way to get the most out of a manual car. If you could plot entry and exit speed of a car into the same corner using heel/toe and again without, you will notice that you can brake a lot later with a lot less stress on the driveline using heel/toe.Consider these 2 scenarios in the wet.1. You approach a 90 degree corner at 120km/h in 6th gear. Brake on. Clutch in. Select 2nd gear. Without heel/toe your engine speed is at idle and the wheel speed needs to be significantly reduced in order to release the clutch, otherwise you lock the rear wheels and head for the bushes.2. Same corner, same speed. Brake on. Clutch in. Select 2nd gear. Blip throttle to match engine speed to wheel speed. Release clutch. No rear wheel lock up. No drive line shunt.Look, it takes practice and daily commute driving isn't conducive to heal/toe braking. Ideally there would be a button on the steering wheel that would blip the throttle instead of using the heel of the braking foot. From experience I can tell you when you get it right it just feels sooooo smooth. My advise to people that have never done it before is to forget using your "heel". Because of the pedal offset you will struggle to apply even brake force with your toes. Instead, try using a straight foot and use the outside edge to blip the throttle and then roll the foot back on the brake peddle.I recently spent a day with Geoff(Jeff?) Brabham at Qld Raceway driving BMW M3's. By the end of the afternoon session the lap times were much lower primarily due to using this downshifting technique. When I got back into my F6 that afternoon I new my next car was going to be a BMW M3 Manual Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/28851-heel-toeing/page/4/#findComment-443900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
81CJH Member 204 Member For: 19y 8m 8d Gender: Male Location: Brisvegas Posted 03/10/06 09:05 AM Share Posted 03/10/06 09:05 AM Oooo, I love your signature, nice work. There should be more of it. Oh, good post too. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/28851-heel-toeing/page/4/#findComment-443975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
81CJH Member 204 Member For: 19y 8m 8d Gender: Male Location: Brisvegas Posted 03/10/06 09:07 AM Share Posted 03/10/06 09:07 AM ...maybe it should read "Keep left to overtake all the w kers driving Miss Daisy in the fast lane." Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/28851-heel-toeing/page/4/#findComment-443977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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